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10.6 dashboard & indicator

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Many thanks Bob, Steve & all for 10.x & the forum...

Here's an indi & dashboard that may or may not be useful to someone (I know Bob's not keen on dashboards). Code is attached, feel free to chop/change/enhance... I share just to give back & say thanks to everyone.

The indicator shows the history of the H4/H1 traffic light bars in arrows.
NOTE: this indi only works on H1 timeframe
Comes in 2 flavours... the 10.6B1H shows all traffic lights. (see screenshot)
The 10.6Bv1 shows all H4, but will only show H1 arrows if H4 trending(is green/red)
(I use this just for backtesting - as an easy visual aid)
eurusdh1.png
The dashboard shows H1 & H4 stoch values & directions, traffic light trend colours & nearest 60/240 - there are some notes on the screenshot to help.
dashboard_10_6_4.png
Cheers
Padnoter

UPDATES;
#nb10.6Dashboard_allpairs_v0_1.mq4 - contains the bug baluda spotted & some minor tidying. Never noticed a problem on my platform - maybe only appears for >50 pairs? Might still be some bugs - if I try adding symbols like "Bund" I do get problems.. If you have any problems, I suggest you use autoSymbols=false and put your exact list of symbols into symbolsToWeigh e.g.

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autoSymbols       = false;
symbolsToWeigh    = "EURUSD,AUDUSD,EURGBP,GBPCHF,EURJPY,";
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Re: 10.6 dashboard & indicator

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padnoter wrote:Many thanks Bob, Steve & all for 10.x & the forum...

Here's an indi & dashboard that may or may not be useful to someone (I know Bob's not keen on dashboards). Code is attached, feel free to chop/change/enhance... I share just to give back & say thanks to everyone.

The indicator shows the history of the H4/H1 traffic light bars in arrows.
NOTE: this indi only works on H1 timeframe
Comes in 2 flavours... the 10.6B1H shows all traffic lights. (see screenshot)
The 10.6Bv1 shows all H4, but will only show H1 arrows if H4 trending(is green/red)
(I use this just for backtesting - as an easy visual aid)
eurusdh1.png
The dashboard shows H1 & H4 stoch values & directions, traffic light trend colours & nearest 60/240 - there are some notes on the screenshot to help.
dashboard_10_6_4.png
Cheers
Padnoter
I already love the idea of the history indi. Fantastic idea. If it works I will be putting that one on page 1. Thanks.
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Re: 10.6 EDSEL

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nanningbob wrote:
zimezoom wrote:Bob, how do you handle the situation, when your pending order above/below a pivot or xx.00 line has been hit and the price immediately reverses to the other direction (just like stop-hunting)? This happens to me many times... :(
I play small lots and big SL so I dont get stop hunted. Basically stop hunting is not the brokers fault in many cases. People, businesses, and governments are exchanging money all day long so price bounces all over the place. So I play the long term trends and only close out if the long term trend changes. So far in the month of November I have stopped out one time. 22 other losses were from profitable or breakeven trades where I use a 2nd trade to nullify the first trade. All my other loss closes were done manually. I choose when to close a loss not the broker or price. I dont talk about it much anymore but I multi level trade because price is not predictable on the short term but can follow a trend long term. When I talk about lot size proportion I tripled the amount of funds I had at the beginning of the year and trade 3-4 cents per thousand dollars of account. That means if I have 1000 dollars I trade 3-4 cent lots. 10,000 dollars that means I trade thirty to fourty cent lots. I have 0 chance of wiping out my account that way or even seriously damaging it. It would take 40,000 pips in losses to wipe out an account. I do trade 20-40 trades at a time and am constantly pocketing winnings almost every session. I then take some of my winnings and close out any losing trades I think wont retrace anytime soon. By doing this I will show a profit almost every day and still keep the losers to a minimum number. I also balance my trades so if something moves strong against me something else will move strong for me. Kind of like hedging but not. I used to talk openly of trading that way but got so harassed by it so much I no longer talk about except on occasion.

Traders will argue against it by saying two things about this kind of trading.

1. Your lots are too small to make money, but I do. 5-20% increase almost every month.
2. You stand a chance of price going against you so big you wipe out your account. Well, have never seen a 40,000 pip move yet.

In October while testing the 10.6 system I had 7038 winning pips and 4772 losing pips for a total 2266 total pips and increased my account almost 11%. That was testing the system. I expect to do better in the future.

It took me years to understand and comprehend to trade that way. But to answer your question, I take the loss and go on. I have many trades going so taking losses is not problem because I bank so many winning trades. My winning percentage per trade is over 70% I never agonize over a single trade and if I am wrong and take a 2, 4, 600 pip loss I usually can make it up in a couple of days. Traders absolutely freak out when I post this stuff and it drives them nuts but I have been able to do it for years. The 240 line is my absolute loss and often take it long before then but to play tight stop losses, I find all you do is get them hit and then price goes in your favor. The times that I am wrong are few enough that my winners always over come those occasional bad times.

Basically what I am saying is, I am not afraid to hold a trade for a week or more if I think I have the fundamentals on my side. I close when it becomes clear to me the trade will not be good any time soon, hit the 240 line, or I have more than enough profits to close out some of my losers.

I got crucified at Forex Factory for teaching this so this is all I am going to say about it here. If you comprehend it and can do it great. If you dont comprehend it, skip because you have to think multi-level and multi-dimensional to do this.

So to answer your question, what is the CSS telling you? Is it telling you that the currency is weak, strong, or middle of the pack. I do a sell, and the currency is weak, I will ride the move out. Strength of currency compared to the others tells you a lot.

So you have a choices to make:

1. Take a loss
2. Ride it out to profit
3. 2nd trade to break even

If you trade small lots to account size you can do #2 and #3. If you trade larger lots to account size you have to do #1. So that is how I handle it.
Wise words, listen to the man.

Undercapitalisation is a long time problem in this industry. It is also one of the reasons that such high leverage is used... Trading in the way Bob describes also helps to remove emotion from the equation, which is also one of the biggest problems...

just my 2c

Cheers

H
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Re: 10.6 dashboard & indicator

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padnoter wrote:Many thanks Bob, Steve & all for 10.x & the forum...

Here's an indi & dashboard that may or may not be useful to someone (I know Bob's not keen on dashboards). Code is attached, feel free to chop/change/enhance... I share just to give back & say thanks to everyone.

The indicator shows the history of the H4/H1 traffic light bars in arrows.
NOTE: this indi only works on H1 timeframe
Comes in 2 flavours... the 10.6B1H shows all traffic lights. (see screenshot)
The 10.6Bv1 shows all H4, but will only show H1 arrows if H4 trending(is green/red)
(I use this just for backtesting - as an easy visual aid)
eurusdh1.png
The dashboard shows H1 & H4 stoch values & directions, traffic light trend colours & nearest 60/240 - there are some notes on the screenshot to help.
dashboard_10_6_4.png
Cheers
Padnoter
Thank you very much for sharing your creation, Padnoter, I find the dashboard extremely useful.
Based on Bob 10.6, I only take a trade when both the H1 and H4 Stoch are at extreme, the dashboard does help a lot to identify trades at a glance without going through each chart.

Just one thought, is it possible to create an indicator to put the H4 Stoch on H1 time frame also. It saves a lot of time flipping through H1 and H4 time frames. Forget it if it is too troublesome, it is just something nice to have. The dashboard is already a wonderful addition to Bob's wonderful system.
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Hi Padnoter,
thankyou for the dashboard ,great work,very much appreciated.
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Re: 10.6 dashboard & indicator

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kwchau wrote: Thank you very much for sharing your creation, Padnoter, I find the dashboard extremely useful.
Based on Bob 10.6, I only take a trade when both the H1 and H4 Stoch are at extreme, the dashboard does help a lot to identify trades at a glance without going through each chart.

Just one thought, is it possible to create an indicator to put the H4 Stoch on H1 time frame also. It saves a lot of time flipping through H1 and H4 time frames. Forget it if it is too troublesome, it is just something nice to have. The dashboard is already a wonderful addition to Bob's wonderful system.
hi kwchau,
yes i also wondered about this (h1 & h4 stoch on 1 chart).... not sure how though! MAs are easy, but stoch?? could use the iCustom(...) to call it, but I was interested in the full range of hourly changes... i.e. the H4 stoch would have 4 different values on the H1 chart.. iCustom will only give one of them i think.
one of the great coders here might know how? or oblige us?
:-)

thanks for feedback everyone - glad some are finding some use for my code.
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You can use this indy : http://codebase.mql4.com/3151 (i've attached it with Bob's parameters)

Then apply a standard sto7 on top of it so you have both in the same indicator window.
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thanks Elixe..
that does put the H4 onto the H1.. but the lines look straight from one H4 period to the next... I was hoping to see what value the H4-stoch would have at the end of each hour... i.e. while the H4-stoch is forming it can go up & down depending on the price action... thought that might be helpful for historical testing..

but maybe off-topic a bit, so.....
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Re: 10.6 EDSEL

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HannesJoubert wrote:
nanningbob wrote:
zimezoom wrote:Bob, how do you handle the situation, when your pending order above/below a pivot or xx.00 line has been hit and the price immediately reverses to the other direction (just like stop-hunting)? This happens to me many times... :(
I play small lots and big SL so I dont get stop hunted. Basically stop hunting is not the brokers fault in many cases. People, businesses, and governments are exchanging money all day long so price bounces all over the place. So I play the long term trends and only close out if the long term trend changes. So far in the month of November I have stopped out one time. 22 other losses were from profitable or breakeven trades where I use a 2nd trade to nullify the first trade. All my other loss closes were done manually. I choose when to close a loss not the broker or price. I dont talk about it much anymore but I multi level trade because price is not predictable on the short term but can follow a trend long term. When I talk about lot size proportion I tripled the amount of funds I had at the beginning of the year and trade 3-4 cents per thousand dollars of account. That means if I have 1000 dollars I trade 3-4 cent lots. 10,000 dollars that means I trade thirty to fourty cent lots. I have 0 chance of wiping out my account that way or even seriously damaging it. It would take 40,000 pips in losses to wipe out an account. I do trade 20-40 trades at a time and am constantly pocketing winnings almost every session. I then take some of my winnings and close out any losing trades I think wont retrace anytime soon. By doing this I will show a profit almost every day and still keep the losers to a minimum number. I also balance my trades so if something moves strong against me something else will move strong for me. Kind of like hedging but not. I used to talk openly of trading that way but got so harassed by it so much I no longer talk about except on occasion.

Traders will argue against it by saying two things about this kind of trading.

1. Your lots are too small to make money, but I do. 5-20% increase almost every month.
2. You stand a chance of price going against you so big you wipe out your account. Well, have never seen a 40,000 pip move yet.

In October while testing the 10.6 system I had 7038 winning pips and 4772 losing pips for a total 2266 total pips and increased my account almost 11%. That was testing the system. I expect to do better in the future.

It took me years to understand and comprehend to trade that way. But to answer your question, I take the loss and go on. I have many trades going so taking losses is not problem because I bank so many winning trades. My winning percentage per trade is over 70% I never agonize over a single trade and if I am wrong and take a 2, 4, 600 pip loss I usually can make it up in a couple of days. Traders absolutely freak out when I post this stuff and it drives them nuts but I have been able to do it for years. The 240 line is my absolute loss and often take it long before then but to play tight stop losses, I find all you do is get them hit and then price goes in your favor. The times that I am wrong are few enough that my winners always over come those occasional bad times.

Basically what I am saying is, I am not afraid to hold a trade for a week or more if I think I have the fundamentals on my side. I close when it becomes clear to me the trade will not be good any time soon, hit the 240 line, or I have more than enough profits to close out some of my losers.

I got crucified at Forex Factory for teaching this so this is all I am going to say about it here. If you comprehend it and can do it great. If you dont comprehend it, skip because you have to think multi-level and multi-dimensional to do this.

So to answer your question, what is the CSS telling you? Is it telling you that the currency is weak, strong, or middle of the pack. I do a sell, and the currency is weak, I will ride the move out. Strength of currency compared to the others tells you a lot.

So you have a choices to make:

1. Take a loss
2. Ride it out to profit
3. 2nd trade to break even

If you trade small lots to account size you can do #2 and #3. If you trade larger lots to account size you have to do #1. So that is how I handle it.
Wise words, listen to the man.

Undercapitalisation is a long time problem in this industry. It is also one of the reasons that such high leverage is used... Trading in the way Bob describes also helps to remove emotion from the equation, which is also one of the biggest problems...

just my 2c

Cheers

H
It is hard to get people to understand this but I became consistently profitable when I went to low lot size, low leverage, and multiple trades scaling in and out of positions. There is some truth to the statement that younger traders hang onto losers too long but the opposite is also true, cutting off profitable trades too early especially trades that become profitable later. I see almost no reason to cut a trade off as a loss as long as price is trending. I see no need to cut off a trade in a range area since it will come back to 0 and can be a breakeven trade. The key is reading the market and with 10.6 I now can read the market very clearly.
I trade http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... =38&t=3964,
I talk about my philosophy of trading here.
http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... =38&t=3627
"The key to converting something useful to others is simplicity. Complexity is the enemy to execution." Tony Robbins
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Re: 10.6 EDSEL

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I just want to check this right... it seems too easy... just want to be 110% sure this is right...
with your dashboard Padnoter, it really is a case of just getting all green or all red? (ignoring ranging for the moment)

So these are the immediate signals:
Image

To understand something I sometimes rewrite but the summary was already pretty clear so I ended up formatting it a bit. Might as well share it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/241249/summary.rtf

- If your installation is getting messy you can always install another copy of Empty4 in a new programfiles folder.
- If you're running from linux the arrows don't display. I think it's a fonts problem. Might be able to solve with sudo rpm -i http://sourceforge.net/projects/mscoref ... noarch.rpm
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