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The links in this post are broken. This does nothing to detract from the import of stimpy's post. Please read it. Then track down a few posts to a link that is still working: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 52#p168852

The video is well worth watching.

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Hi,

I would like to draw your attention to this;

VIDEOS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY YOUTUBE AFTER METAQUOTES COPYRIGHT VIOLATION REQUEST - AMAZING!!!!
Video 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQK6hSCb4Xs
Video 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7t9e13GQXc (If you still don't get it)


NEW LINK FOR VIDEOS - https://d.tube/#!/v/Empty4-gets69d/QmdLEC5 ... F7iFFHhf7K

People are STILL believing 'Trading Gurus' in the face of this.

Not only have we seen the study that 97% of people day trading on stocks in Brasil lost money, those that did only earned a pittance. No one (97% or more) 'trading' retail naked is making money - that is a fact. It is akin to Las Vegas at retail level. People need to be educated to this fact.

The broker stats saying 78% of people lose money is fabricated nonsense.

It is high time the Trading Forums, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter clamped down on letting these people promote without recourse - they can only do it with your help.

Please share the hell out of these videos and help make this whole 'trading community' better. At present it isn't a community. It is a safe space for people who have zero skin in the game and zero ability to actually trade to make huge profits - some of these people are making $16,000 a month running Discord Chat rooms alone.

Some 'Trading' Forums are absolutely terrible in recognising and dealing with scammers.

I am afraid to state that most people coming in to "trading" wouldn't know a scam if it slapped them round the face with a wet fish, all day, until Christmas. When people have $$$ signs in their eyes they are in a different world and will beleive anything the Paid Course Leader pied piper will say.

At this level, especially in Forex it is just gambling. Crypto is the new Gold Rush with scams everywhere.

In the UK - The police are nowhere. Action Fraud are not recording and responding to crimes (documented fact) accurately nor timely nor is actual trained Police looking at your complaint.

The FCA will only look at registered firm so it is open season for Scammers, Gurus, Publishers, Advertisers, Paid Courses, Signal Providers, Chat Rooms (Discord).

What a mess.
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Thw link is broken!
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geojalencar » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:12 pm wrote:Thw link is broken!

fixed. its the forum formatting when i copied from another forum post.

ta :good:
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I am Brazilian and I have seen the emergence of gurus who promise daily gains of more than 1000.00 reais (250.00 dollars) per day... If you buy the course from him. Miraculous courses sell like water.
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Missing videos from first post were taken off from youtube by devine intervention. :evil:

https://d.tube/#!/v/Empty4-gets69d/QmdLEC5 ... F7iFFHhf7K
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lemur6666 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:34 pm wrote:Missing videos from first post were taken off from youtube from devine intervention. :evil:

https://d.tube/#!/v/Empty4-gets69d/QmdLEC5 ... F7iFFHhf7K

thanks.

the fact metaquotes had it removed shows how big this is.

This could be an absolutely huge scale operation of fraud.

1) not only have you got gurus astrofx/fxlifestyle making bullshit up making fousands
2) all the signal copying sites (myfxbook, mql5.com) running hundreds of strategies - it could be all fake!


let that sink in for a minute.
You already know why all the brokers run Empty4 with the plugin and its multiple issues - it really does help people lose.


This is huge.
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Stimpy and lemur, thanks for bringing this up and then finding/refinding/reposting the video link. This should be required viewing by all noobs.

It is fascinating viewing for the rest of us. I cannot speak for others, but it is a revelation to me to see just how easy it is to fake live trading accounts and so appear to have the magic formula for successful trading.

I suppose this gives added weight to my opinion that if it is not posted here at SHF then it should be treated with the same suspicion as would be a ticking package left at an airport. That is not the point of my post - just an aside.

The point of my post is to bring this to our members' attention. I shall be highlighting it in my wrup tomorrow night.

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SteveHopwood » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:09 am wrote:Stimpy and lemur, thanks for bringing this up and then finding/refinding/reposting the video link. This should be required viewing by all noobs.

It is fascinating viewing for the rest of us. I cannot speak for others, but it is a revelation to me to see just how easy it is to fake live trading accounts and so appear to have the magic formula for successful trading.

I suppose this gives added weight to my opinion that if it is not posted here at SHF then it should be treated with the same suspicion as would be a ticking package left at an airport. That is not the point of my post - just an aside.

The point of my post is to bring this to our members' attention. I shall be highlighting it in my wrup tomorrow night.

:xm: :rocket:

thanks Steve. You and I have been here for over a decade on this stuff.

It is amazing to think just how deep this stuff could be into scam territory. From my experience in the city its largely crooks in suits. There are very, very few people actually trading the markets and making money - the rest are clipping the ticket or selling second hand/third hand services.

We knew about the bucket shop brokers and how bad they are but the gurus are just another extension down here in retail land.

It makes you wonder how many people actually make consistent returns in forex/equities/crypto at retail level - its going to be less than 3% - this document talks about day trading the Brazilian stock market - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3423101

So you already know the brokers advertising, "70% retail clients lose" are total lies - its much much higher.

As for the gurus claiming huge results day trading on the main forums, instagram and twitter - well they are all publishers/course sellers/discord room providers...

As for metaquotes - what a disgrace they are then, removing the video... You now know they are involved.

Not only do you have to beat the market, you have to beat the broker and the software too not to mention yourself (psychology).
The reality is, making consistent returns at retail level is pretty much impossible. This information should be made available on all the forums so everyone is aware before they get involved the chances of success are far lower than "95% retail traders lose"

What is trading anyway at retail level? "Trading" discretionary naked spot retail is a very, very thin line between gambling and for the majority > 98% I would say it is.

From my time on forums and fintwit I can tell you I know less than a handful returning consistent returns, month on month, year on year. I just wish everyone knew this was the case.

This is why most people are gurus/publishers/scammers because its less risk and definitely more money selling 'services'. Failing that become a broker/market maker.
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This link is not working. Any chance of getting a fresh copy? I'm having trouble convincing a non-believer.

https://d.tube/#!/v/Empty4-gets69d/QmdLEC5 ... F7iFFHhf7K
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Barcode » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:23 am wrote:This link is not working. Any chance of getting a fresh copy? I'm having trouble convincing a non-believer.

https://d.tube/#!/v/Empty4-gets69d/QmdLEC5 ... F7iFFHhf7K
I just tried the one in your post - working fine.

:xm: :rocket:
Read the effing manual, ok?

Afterprime is the official SHF broker. Read about them at https://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=175790#p175790.

I still suffer from OCCD. Good thing, really.

Anyone here feeling generous? My paypal account is always in the market for a tiny donation. [email protected] is the account.

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