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| Author: | hilavoku [ Thu May 16, 2013 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Hi Jason, i also wouldn't say there is no hope for this software and i know the power of neural networks. I used matlab in combination with neural networks when i studied computer science. It give's you really great power but the brain bevore the computer must also give all it has to give. I personally tried fxDreema (http://fxdreema.com/). You can build EA's per drag'n drop and you also have the ability to insert your own MQL code. I wrote an EA for the SSBO strategy you find at ForexFactory. This EA consist of ~6000 lines of code and does what it should. I can program but i never could make this EA happen without fxDreema. There is good support from the creator himself and the price is really affordable. But there is no neural networking or automatic optimization of parameters included. (Another example: In the same EA i read a textfile which contains the 'power' of the main currencys for the next month. With the help of a self written programm i write this file every hour with updated values. So the EA trades only the pairs where the power goes the 'right'/same way as SSBO want's to trade...) So fxDreema is a bit off topic but at the moment for me the way to go for myself... Guido |
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| Author: | theforexedge [ Thu May 16, 2013 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Guido I've tried SSBO but I didn't know there was an EA...can you post a link or the EA? I will have a look at fxDreema, but maybe there should be a software development sub-forum for all this new software to try, test and post findings. I was thinking that it might be possible to fuse together several elements from different applications to create better strategies / EA"s. Jason |
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| Author: | hilavoku [ Thu May 16, 2013 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Hi Jason, oh sorry. English isn't my first language. I mean't that you can find the strategy 'SSBO' on ForexFactory not the EA. ForexHard would have killed me when i had posted the EA in his thread. Guido |
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| Author: | boldtrader [ Thu May 16, 2013 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Hi Team, I have been using FSB software for several years. I have it connected to multiple Empty4 accounts using multiple strategies. I collect the tick data from my broker, ATCBrokers, into a separate database, then upload into FSB; The tick data is converted using a separate program and process. Note: ATCBrokers uses a wholesale ECN data feed from FXCM and is very clean and low cost based on negotiated volume. In most trade conditions, I have zero spreads or very narrow spreads (I use 0.4-0.6 for EU). I have had zero issues with the data or ATCBrokers. They have a great support system and the owner and the staff are very helpful and friendly. Never an issue with withdrawals and scalping is allowed with no minimal time period required for being in a position. Additionally they have an "MKT" feed (WUSIWUG). I support a large global group of prop traders as their Head Market Analyst, Chief Trader and Strategy Developer, and have found ATCBrokers to have very good business operations supporting International and domestic accounts. They are in the process of becoming their own clearing house which will allow for reduction in clearing costs. I do not work for them and have had accounts with them now for about 6 years. Their tech team also developed a very cool Advanced 'one click' Order Entry window which will allow for multi-leg trading with preset stop, trail, b/e, and TP values. It is the primary tool our traders use for scalping. You can upload Empty4 HST data files directly from Empty4 into FSB. Just make sure you have clean data from your broker and not downloaded from the meta history server. That data is not usable and has many missing bars. I am able to account for my broker's spreads (0.4-0.6 on EU as an example), along with slippage (minimal at best). I run new weekly data prior to each Sunday session to check for any variances in volatility and other market conditions/anomalies which may affect my strategies. I then compare the weekly results with historical results for any changes in volatility trends. My strategies are developed with settings for trade signals being issued at the opening of the bar. Curve fitting is not an issue. Alternatively, you can import tick data from TrueFX.com and others, and then make adjustments to variables such as spread, slippage and commission (if any). The risk you run using other tick data is that the data will not be the same as your broker's data since there is no centralized exchange. However, using other's tick data will give you a baseline overview to work with. Empty4 ea's and indicators must be re-written in C# and are not portable to FSB. There are, however, multiple indi's already written which are similar to Empty4 indi's. They use a different term for indicators of higher time periods, "HTF" = Higher Time Frame", which allows for testing for higher time periods from lower time periods. It beats Empty4 backtester hands down and can give insights into your strategies not seen from Empty4. FSB recently developed a new pro version, however, not all functions are available. Once the strategies are completed in FSB, the strategy file is ported to the FST software (Forex Strategy Trader) which is connected to your Empty4 platform for auto trade execution into your Empty4 account. You can automate multiple strategies to run simultaneous using magic numbers and assign unique instance numbers to each strategie to run in one Empty4 instance, or run in separate instances using multiple instances of FST. What is also very advantageous to this program is FSB will allow you to make adjustments to strategies using filters such as sharpe ratio, minimize ambiguous bars, cut off bad data, maximum dd %, and other criteria. Example, you may find that the volatility on the EURUSD has increased over the past week and using your normal stop settings on your ea or strategy has been getting hit too much. Using FSB you can "dial" up or down your stop level to improve results. This is not readily done in Empty4. In FSB, it only takes a few minutes to run the scans. I do consider myself to be well versed in the program and its abilities and operation. For additional insights and diagnostics of your strategies, connect the Empty4 account to programs such as MT4i.com or MyFXBook.com. If I can help anyone with questions on the use, please feel free to ask. Hope this helps. Cheers, |
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| Author: | slowkey [ Thu May 16, 2013 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Woke up and saw the interest here. I am very pleased. I will respond later but understanding the limitations and benefits of software like this is central to the thread and pleased to see that there is an interest for software like this. I do think the strong suit of any software like this will be getting to demo in the shortest amount of time. Watching a strategy trade on demo is very instructive. |
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| Author: | slowkey [ Thu May 16, 2013 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
I just wanted to welcome you to the thread and to let you know that having successful users of the software in this thread is very important to me. I also think that open source is very important and benefits the retail trader. One of the reasons I am so very enthusiastic about this software. I appreciate your participation here and explaining how you are using FSB. "HTF" = Higher Time Frame" indicators: I was aware of them but had not talked about them in the videos. Now I must get back to sleep but feel free to participate and offer insights into how you have been using the software. Any insights on the generator for example and the use of high quality data with it. I would be interested in how you use the generator if you do and any experience you might have with the concept of curve fitting in the generator. Do you find the OOS sufficient to filter out curve fitting and how big a zone do you use. Any insights would be very much appreciated. |
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| Author: | slowkey [ Thu May 16, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
So out of all the strategies I developed on Saturday I have 3 showing growth of about 297 pips. All were done in the generator around concepts I am interested in. I have retired a bunch of strategies that were going no where. I will probably do two demo accounts. One to sort out the under-performing strategies from the ones that seem to have legs. Than the other account to put the ones that seem to have real potential on and let them run for a few weeks. So below is one you can stick on the trader just to get you started. There are no stops on it and if is successful I will determine what it needs later. It has both bought and sold without a loss yet. Too soon to say anything about it really. Just throwing it up to get you started. About Curve fitting, if that is your opinion of the generator it in no way lessens the value of the program. I certainly will not be offended by your opinion and I will study what you say. However that is no reason to say that the program is of no value. The value of this program lies in it allowing you to use the strategy builder to construct a strategy you like and have it running on demo in minutes whether that is done in the generator or by choosing the logic yourself. As for other programs that are being talked about I am glad to know that they are out there and I will look at those programs and see what is being developed. I think that it is fine to understand their approach. I do not want to lessen the participation in the thread because it has started off with terrific energy. I also however am concerned about members being discouraged from using the software. I am in know way being critical when I say the following. This is a thread about a free open source software that can immediately be put to work for all of us. There is no cost barrier and anyone who knows c# can contribute and read the code to improve it. There is no hidden agenda and unlike most things in Forex no one is trying to rip us off. It is a heck of a lot of fun too. I say this because I do not want new members or guest from You Tube coming into the thread to be discouraged by talk of curve fitting and thus the program is of no value. We have already had one long term user of the software comment on how it has benefited him. So I am just gently trying to keep the thread on track to encourage members to watch the videos, install the software and get 10 or 15 strategies up running on demo. The program will prove itself as helpful or not over time then. At the same time I do not want to discourage intelligent talk about how best to use the program as long as it is constructive and not discouraging to new members and those who are unfamiliar with the theory. |
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| Author: | SWG123 [ Thu May 16, 2013 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Thanks very much Slowkey. For a certified non-coder like me this promises to be a fascinating exercise. I'm subscribed and looking forward to getting to grips with it. There goes the weekend! |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Thu May 16, 2013 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
When I debated with myself whether to go for an immediate heads-up or wait until my weekly round-up, I thought to myslef, "How many weekends will be wrecked by a heads-up"? Then I thought, weekend, shmeekend, they are overrated and went ahead. |
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| Author: | slowkey [ Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Forex Strategy Builder and Trader |
Welcome aboard and sorry about that weekend. |
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