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Author:  shellsnail [ Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

nanningbob wrote:
harry wrote:
nanningbob wrote:
Gold bar means it is ranging red bar means possible sell back into a DT. Notice how I marked my chart.

1. Price touches the 60 MA showing this DT move has ended for now.
2. Red lines are the previous high/low which establish the range area.
3. First attempt to break 240 line fails and even though it broke the high support line it still did not break out of the range area. (area between 240 and 60 are range areas.
4. Price breaks back down back inside the range area creating a lower low in the candle highs. This could signal a move back into a DT so a good entry point is a sell at the DO. Red bar confirms price is higher than the 80 bar on the 1H chart. Since the DO is over 90 pips away from the bottom range line and the red range bars S/R are around a 150 pips this qualifies as a good range sell trade.
5. A second sell is at the 135.50 line just below the bottom red range. This is a good place to reenter the DT.
6. This area is a good place to buy into a new UT. You can do this if price doesnt move on the sell and the euro crosses up past the usd on the 10.6 info page either the 4H or Daily info chart.
OR if price doesnt break the lower range bar and you want to try a buy back up into the range area off of a green 1H bar. A good entrance back into the buy would be 134.00 line at the bottom of the range area. This also would give you more than 50% trade of a range trade.

I am playing the sell to cross the pivot line and my first TP near the 134.00 line. A second sell will be just below the 133.50 as going into a DT is possible. This scenario may happen if the eur and usd dont cross on the 4H or Daily CSS chart. Watch the angles of the CSS chart on the info page. euro is angling up and usd is flat.

This is how you use the info from your chart with the info from the 10.6 info trade to confirm the possible direction of a move. CSS shows usd with more strength but is flat and euro strengthening. If this continues you have a not very powerful sell more likely a range trade.

If euro crosses usd then you have a strong signal to buy into the growing strength of euro and weakening of the usd.

If euro quits angling up and usd continues angling up then another DT begins.

That is a complete 10.6 analysis for eur/usd.
thanks bob...

i have placed sell pending at DO

lets see what happens...

Harry
Well it is going up. That is what I like about pending trades, if a set up doesnt work right away or never, you are out.
Actually, all I use to trade this system is to use pending trades at DP to enter once STO closes below 20 or above 80 and set a 2:1 Reward:Risk (approximately... usually it's more between 1 and 2) as parameters. I don't worry too much about whether it crosses above 20 or below 80 or not because crossing Daily pivot usually leads to those happening from my experience.

Also, I select maybe about 8-10 trending pairs using the CSS and only take trend trades instead of trying to look at all the pairs. Sure I may miss some, but this increases my win ratio and prevents me from taking all kinds of weird trades that are like triangular hedges of each other..

10.6 trades don't really appeal to me because the stop placement is often tricky. The cookie cutter 4H trend trade works brilliantly and it is very simple to execute most of the time.

Just my 2 pips.
Author:  SteveHopwood [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

shellsnail wrote:Actually, all I use to trade this system is to use pending trades at DP to enter once STO closes below 20 or above 80 and set a 2:1 Reward:Risk (approximately... usually it's more between 1 and 2) as parameters. I don't worry too much about whether it crosses above 20 or below 80 or not because crossing Daily pivot usually leads to those happening from my experience.

Also, I select maybe about 8-10 trending pairs using the CSS and only take trend trades instead of trying to look at all the pairs. Sure I may miss some, but this increases my win ratio and prevents me from taking all kinds of weird trades that are like triangular hedges of each other..

10.6 trades don't really appeal to me because the stop placement is often tricky. The cookie cutter 4H trend trade works brilliantly and it is very simple to execute most of the time.

Just my 2 pips.
Bob will tell you any time it comes up that he does not offer up a hard and fast set of trading rules, and that he welcomes any adaptation of his method that works for an individual trader. You are bang on in doing what you are doing; if it makes pips, it is right.

Bob has a lot of experience of this stuff. He can handle 25 charts. Most of the rest of us just get confused. :lol:

Just like you, I have limited myself this week, to the majors + GJ, plus a couple more charts that CSS suggested. Trend trading only, using my EA helpers to enter then monitor the trades.
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Pretty damned chuffed, I can tell you. For me, the range trading thingy can wait. I have spent 7 years looking for a way of determining a trade that withstands most of what the market throws at me. Now that Bob has deposited it on my plate, I am going to spend a while getting used to it.

Cheers Bob.

:D
Author:  harry [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

SteveHopwood wrote: Bob will tell you any time it comes up that he does not offer up a hard and fast set of trading rules, and that he welcomes any adaptation of his method that works for an individual trader. You are bang on in doing what you are doing; if it makes pips, it is right.

Bob has a lot of experience of this stuff. He can handle 25 charts. Most of the rest of us just get confused. :lol:

Just like you, I have limited myself this week, to the majors + GJ, plus a couple more charts that CSS suggested. Trend trading only, using my EA helpers to enter then monitor the trades.
usdhkdh1.png
Pretty damned chuffed, I can tell you. For me, the range trading thingy can wait. I have spent 7 years looking for a way of determining a trade that withstands most of what the market throws at me. Now that Bob has deposited it on my plate, I am going to spend a while getting used to it.

Cheers Bob.

:D
Hi Steve,

Looking at your attachment, i can see that since 18/08 you have opened 22 trades. So that is about 3 and half months and you made 530 pips...Is that really reasonable to survive? Because you have bought small lots even. If you buy 1.0 lots on every deal then you make $10 on every pips and that can end up to $5300 dollars. Even that $5300 for 3 and half months are not enough to survive...

Is there i am missing something?

Let me know

thanks
Harry
Author:  SteveHopwood [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

harry wrote:
SteveHopwood wrote: Bob will tell you any time it comes up that he does not offer up a hard and fast set of trading rules, and that he welcomes any adaptation of his method that works for an individual trader. You are bang on in doing what you are doing; if it makes pips, it is right.

Bob has a lot of experience of this stuff. He can handle 25 charts. Most of the rest of us just get confused. :lol:

Just like you, I have limited myself this week, to the majors + GJ, plus a couple more charts that CSS suggested. Trend trading only, using my EA helpers to enter then monitor the trades.
usdhkdh1.png
Pretty damned chuffed, I can tell you. For me, the range trading thingy can wait. I have spent 7 years looking for a way of determining a trade that withstands most of what the market throws at me. Now that Bob has deposited it on my plate, I am going to spend a while getting used to it.

Cheers Bob.

:D
Hi Steve,

Looking at your attachment, i can see that since 18/08 you have opened 22 trades. So that is about 3 and half months and you made 530 pips...Is that really reasonable to survive? Because you have bought small lots even. If you buy 1.0 lots on every deal then you make $10 on every pips and that can end up to $5300 dollars. Even that $5300 for 3 and half months are not enough to survive...

Is there i am missing something?

Let me know

thanks
Harry
'tis fault in the reporting software. I opened this demo account on Monday, so the results are for the last 5 days.

Good spot; not sure if this is a general fault in the reporting software. Nor do I care; the code is someone elses, for once. :lol:

Mind, if taking note of close detail, you should also have known how recently this thread opened and that therefore the account could not have been as old as you thought. Thinking and logically deducing as well as observing is required here. :lol:

:D
Author:  harry [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

SteveHopwood wrote: Mind, if taking note of close detail, you should also have known how recently this thread opened and that therefore the account could not have been as old as you thought. Thinking and logically deducing as well as observing is required here. :lol:

:D
You are right. I never thought on that.... and as soon as i saw those dates, i was like :roll: :lol:
Author:  orid [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

SteveHopwood wrote:
shellsnail wrote:Actually, all I use to trade this system is to use pending trades at DP to enter once STO closes below 20 or above 80 and set a 2:1 Reward:Risk (approximately... usually it's more between 1 and 2) as parameters. I don't worry too much about whether it crosses above 20 or below 80 or not because crossing Daily pivot usually leads to those happening from my experience.

Also, I select maybe about 8-10 trending pairs using the CSS and only take trend trades instead of trying to look at all the pairs. Sure I may miss some, but this increases my win ratio and prevents me from taking all kinds of weird trades that are like triangular hedges of each other..

10.6 trades don't really appeal to me because the stop placement is often tricky. The cookie cutter 4H trend trade works brilliantly and it is very simple to execute most of the time.

Just my 2 pips.
Bob will tell you any time it comes up that he does not offer up a hard and fast set of trading rules, and that he welcomes any adaptation of his method that works for an individual trader. You are bang on in doing what you are doing; if it makes pips, it is right.

Bob has a lot of experience of this stuff. He can handle 25 charts. Most of the rest of us just get confused. :lol:

Just like you, I have limited myself this week, to the majors + GJ, plus a couple more charts that CSS suggested. Trend trading only, using my EA helpers to enter then monitor the trades.
usdhkdh1.png
Pretty damned chuffed, I can tell you. For me, the range trading thingy can wait. I have spent 7 years looking for a way of determining a trade that withstands most of what the market throws at me. Now that Bob has deposited it on my plate, I am going to spend a while getting used to it.
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Hi Steve

Hi Steve , do you mind if I ask if you ,? do you still use the 4 hr system as per . 10.4 CSS page rules,
along with the 4 hr slope ,and take into account the slope colours , as per template attached or do you use the new 10.6 template with slope on daily only. ?I am just trying a few different things at mo with this fantastic method of trading.
Thanks Peter
:D
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Author:  SteveHopwood [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

orid wrote:Hi Steve

Hi Steve , do you mind if I ask if you ,? do you still use the 4 hr system as per . 10.4 CSS page rules,
along with the 4 hr slope ,and take into account the slope colours , as per template attached or do you use the new 10.6 template with slope on daily only. ?I am just trying a few different things at mo with this fantastic method of trading.
Thanks Peter
The only thing I have done that is not pure 10.6 is adding a second trade when the first has gone into the hole, then closed them at breakeven. I am going to add this modified Recovery to my EA helpers.

:D
Author:  art [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

morning chaps , just going through the posts, orid I dont think the css slope is being used anymore, due to high cpu usage, also when I was just taking trend trades, I was doing a lot better than trying to take range trades as well, so I think I will just stick to trend trades for now
Author:  orid [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

SteveHopwood wrote:
orid wrote:Hi Steve

Hi Steve , do you mind if I ask if you ,? do you still use the 4 hr system as per . 10.4 CSS page rules,
along with the 4 hr slope ,and take into account the slope colours , as per template attached or do you use the new 10.6 template with slope on daily only. ?I am just trying a few different things at mo with this fantastic method of trading.
Thanks Peter
The only thing I have done that is not pure 10.6 is adding a second trade when the first has gone into the hole, then closed them at breakeven. I am going to add this modified Recovery to my EA helpers.

:D
Thank you Steve
Author:  Jollyroger [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 10.6 EDSEL

art wrote:morning chaps , just going through the posts, orid I dont think the css slope is being used anymore, due to high cpu usage, also when I was just taking trend trades, I was doing a lot better than trying to take range trades as well, so I think I will just stick to trend trades for now
On the Edsel template if you switch to the D1 TF you will find that the CSS has been added for that pair. It does not show up in the H1 or H4.

Roger
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