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michaelhryu [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 am ]

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Re: The Beast stirs. He's got a slope.

slowkey wrote:
I am planning to demo The Beast on Cowboy IBFX, using the attached fxozgirl's set. Obviously, Cowboy IBFX does not allow Hedging trades. So should I set "DoWhiteBoxTrading" to "true" or "false"? You recommend "UseZeljko" is set to "true". What are "UseZeljko" and "DoWhiteBoxTrading", anyway?

I was wondering if there was anyone here who has been trading on Cowboy IBFX platform successfully. That is, Cowboy IBFX does not allow hedging trades. If hedging trades would improve performance, I could test/trade The Beast on FXDD platform, instead.
Zeljko is a nice little filter

It is there to reduce risk, which is an important attribute for a bot to possess.
Steve on Zeljko

"this ensures that a second trade including one of the currencies already being traded is 'balanced. The easiest way to explain this is with an example:
Buy GBPxxx open, so only sell GBPxxx. So, if the buy is GBPUSD, then only sell GBPJPY, GBPCHF etc.

The rationale is that forex markets are highly sensitive to big movements caused by international events. If something drastic hits the GBP and you are in two sell positions, then both are heading horribly into drawdown. If one of the trades is a buy and the other a sell, then one is going down the tube but its balancing buy is heading for the stratosphere."

In the US, no you can not use hedging so just turn hedging to false. Every where else in the world regulators allow it. You will want to keep the white box on because it looks heaven sent. Than the best thing to do is to watch it trade on a Demo until you get the gist of what is happening while referencing the PDF. If you want to see all that speeded up put it in the tester and run it in visual mode.

Do you mean I should turn hedging to false, with the Cowboy IBFX platform, but I could still do WhiteBox trading? Please clarify. In the US, there aren't many broker choices unfortunately when it comes to hedging.

Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation on Zeljko! I will definitely utilize it.

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Author:	feucht [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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Seeing quite a few error (130) invalid stops in the logs for this. Searching the forum I see that the general fix for this involves CriminalECN which isn't a setting for SB. What else should I be tweaking (I assume that the requested stop is too close to the market for my crim (Cowboy IBFX))? Thanks!

Author:	slowkey [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:14 pm ]
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So the White Box pips setting, for now I would say from what I have seen the default is about right on. What seems right differs some between pairs but 10 is pretty good and should not make or break White Box with slope.

Author:	michaelhryu [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:22 am ]
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Bunker wrote: michaelhryu wrote: Bunker wrote:I have been using TB LIVE with great success for over a year (using Shelley’s set file). I also have great success with EAs (or manual system) using the slope. And now we have a Slopey Beast ? That’s it ! I quit my day job ! Thanks Steve! Bunker Would you please post Shelley’s set file that you are using? Could you also tell us the pairs that you are trading live with TB, please? Thank you in advance! Here it is. H1 All pairs (UseZeljko is set to true). Bunker I am planning to demo The Beast on Cowboy IBFX, using the attached fxozgirl's set. Obviously, Cowboy IBFX does not allow Hedging trades. So should I set "DoWhiteBoxTrading" to "true" or "false"? You recommend "UseZeljko" is set to "true". What are "UseZeljko" and "DoWhiteBoxTrading", anyway? I was wondering if there was anyone here who has been trading on Cowboy IBFX platform successfully. That is, Cowboy IBFX does not allow hedging trades. If hedging trades would improve performance, I could test/trade The Beast on FXDD platform, instead.

Author:	slowkey [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Beast stirs. He's got a slope.
I am planning to demo The Beast on Cowboy IBFX, using the attached fxozgirl's set. Obviously, Cowboy IBFX does not allow Hedging trades. So should I set "DoWhiteBoxTrading" to "true" or "false"? You recommend "UseZeljko" is set to "true". What are "UseZeljko" and "DoWhiteBoxTrading", anyway? I was wondering if there was anyone here who has been trading on Cowboy IBFX platform successfully. That is, Cowboy IBFX does not allow hedging trades. If hedging trades would improve performance, I could test/trade The Beast on FXDD platform, instead. Zeljko is a nice little filter It is there to reduce risk, which is an important attribute for a bot to possess. Steve on Zeljko "this ensures that a second trade including one of the currencies already being traded is 'balanced. The easiest way to explain this is with an example: Buy GBPxxx open, so only sell GBPxxx. So, if the buy is GBPUSD, then only sell GBPJPY, GBPCHF etc. The rationale is that forex markets are highly sensitive to big movements caused by international events. If something drastic hits the GBP and you are in two sell positions, then both are heading horribly into drawdown. If one of the trades is a buy and the other a sell, then one is going down the tube but its balancing buy is heading for the stratosphere." In the US, no you can not use hedging so just turn hedging to false. Every where else in the world regulators allow it. You will want to keep the white box on because it looks heaven sent. Than the best thing to do is to watch it trade on a Demo until you get the gist of what is happening while referencing the PDF. If you want to see all that speeded up put it in the tester and run it in visual mode.

Author:	slowkey [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Beast stirs. He's got a slope.
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation on Zeljko! I will definitely utilize it. Yes use White Box Hedging is not required to use it or the Bot.

Author:	Aussiedoc [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:32 am ]
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Athravan wrote:Hi Aussiedoc, Can you let us know specifically which version you are running OOTB please? Regards Ath G'day Athravan & Armen, thanks for your interest. The version I am using was downloaded last Sunday from P1 and loaded onto the currency pairs listed there. The results you see are on the D1 'cause I was 1/2 asleep at the time. The EA is managing all trades. It picked up another $3.71 on the 18th, but nothing so far today. Cheers.

Author:	michaelhryu [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:41 pm ]
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slowkey wrote: Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation on Zeljko! I will definitely utilize it. Yes use White Box Hedging is not required to use it or the Bot. As recommended, I've benn running The Beast on Cowboy IBFX demo so far, with Zeljko "true", WhiteBox "true, and Hedging "false". But nothing happened. Would you also be able to explain what WhiteBox is all about, please? Thank you very much in advance!

Author:	Bunker [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:04 pm ]
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michaelhryu wrote: slowkey wrote: Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation on Zeljko! I will definitely utilize it. Yes use White Box Hedging is not required to use it or the Bot. As recommended, I've benn running The Beast on Cowboy IBFX demo so far, with Zeljko "true", WhiteBox "true, and Hedging "false". But nothing happened. Would you also be able to explain what WhiteBox is all about, please? Thank you very much in advance! Hi michaelhryu This is where it all started: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread. ... ost4523009 Cheers! Bunker

Author:	SteveHopwood [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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Bunker wrote:This is where it all started: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread. ... ost4523009 Cheers! Bunker Hehe. Bunker, how ever did you remember that? michaelhryu, you could always read the user guide attached to post 1. Over 500 others have. I would have written, "Not much use posting a user guide if nobody can be bothered to read it" except that over 500 others have. Care to join them? I am tolerably sure that post 1 mentioned it, if you bothered to read post 1 properly. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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