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Author:  Zypip [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

nubika wrote:
Philippe,

I do understand what you are saying believe me. Of course you are right with your statement if we have trends. Look at the charts in the last 3 - 4 months. There are no real trends at all only ranging market.
Current market situation will close out too many trades with losses and you will have no capital left on the end.
This is why I use a larger initial capital with small lots and small TP targets. This way we do build balance and equity slowly but surely. Then when we are happy with the gains, just close the shop and start fresh.

Frank
I guess everybody's right :) it all depends on whether you are prepared to accept DD or not. I would accept DD if I am rewarded for it. Only time will tell which approach is the most profitable and anyway, one may be more profitable this year and less profitable next year. The best is (imo) to always stick to your guns and not be too greedy !

Good week to all,

Zyp
Author:  phil_trade [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

Zypip wrote:
nubika wrote:
Philippe,

I do understand what you are saying believe me. Of course you are right with your statement if we have trends. Look at the charts in the last 3 - 4 months. There are no real trends at all only ranging market.
Current market situation will close out too many trades with losses and you will have no capital left on the end.
This is why I use a larger initial capital with small lots and small TP targets. This way we do build balance and equity slowly but surely. Then when we are happy with the gains, just close the shop and start fresh.

Frank
I guess everybody's right :) it all depends on whether you are prepared to accept DD or not. I would accept DD if I am rewarded for it. Only time will tell which approach is the most profitable and anyway, one may be more profitable this year and less profitable next year. The best is (imo) to always stick to your guns and not be too greedy !

Good week to all,

Zyp

Last four years give right to long term, but yes, what future reserve ? the best thing is to do both strategy :)
For now, I have the Long and Mid term strategies and hope we will have short term with Monday Zone Break Out

Philippe
Author:  nubika [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

Zansistor

@nubika...

sorry.. is that on TF M15? or Daily? i understood is fixed lot...
Thanks

Daily charts

Frank
Author:  nubika [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

Zansistor

@nubika...

sorry.. is that on TF M15? or Daily? i understood is fixed lot...
Thanks

Daily charts

Frank

PS: Also use this set file now. I have changed it a bit to match the original 36b setup I have running, because that is still bringing the best results. The new features of the 40c and the settings of 36b are ideal for me at least.
Author:  nubika [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

phil_trade wrote:
Zypip wrote:
nubika wrote:
Philippe,

I do understand what you are saying believe me. Of course you are right with your statement if we have trends. Look at the charts in the last 3 - 4 months. There are no real trends at all only ranging market.
Current market situation will close out too many trades with losses and you will have no capital left on the end.
This is why I use a larger initial capital with small lots and small TP targets. This way we do build balance and equity slowly but surely. Then when we are happy with the gains, just close the shop and start fresh.

Frank
I guess everybody's right :) it all depends on whether you are prepared to accept DD or not. I would accept DD if I am rewarded for it. Only time will tell which approach is the most profitable and anyway, one may be more profitable this year and less profitable next year. The best is (imo) to always stick to your guns and not be too greedy !

Good week to all,

Zyp

Last four years give right to long term, but yes, what future reserve ? the best thing is to do both strategy :)
For now, I have the Long and Mid term strategies and hope we will have short term with Monday Zone Break Out

Philippe
Phillipe,

Just as a reference, please see the 2 accounts on the links below. You can clearly see the effect of the 3MAC closure had on the balance and the equity. Both accounts are running 36b version and had large closures with losses. That set back the account a bit. I know it will recover but 3 or 4 of these in a row can do a devastating affect on the equity and the capital.

See the trading history when the closures happened. Just want to help to sort this out. :)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... yKIpDZGiAX

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... oCotGumvvs


From today I have changed these to the 40C so we will see the difference in the coming weeks.

Frank
Author:  kwittusen [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

nubika wrote:
phil_trade wrote:
Zypip wrote:
nubika wrote:
Philippe,

I do understand what you are saying believe me. Of course you are right with your statement if we have trends. Look at the charts in the last 3 - 4 months. There are no real trends at all only ranging market.
Current market situation will close out too many trades with losses and you will have no capital left on the end.
This is why I use a larger initial capital with small lots and small TP targets. This way we do build balance and equity slowly but surely. Then when we are happy with the gains, just close the shop and start fresh.

Frank
I guess everybody's right :) it all depends on whether you are prepared to accept DD or not. I would accept DD if I am rewarded for it. Only time will tell which approach is the most profitable and anyway, one may be more profitable this year and less profitable next year. The best is (imo) to always stick to your guns and not be too greedy !

Good week to all,

Zyp

Last four years give right to long term, but yes, what future reserve ? the best thing is to do both strategy :)
For now, I have the Long and Mid term strategies and hope we will have short term with Monday Zone Break Out

Philippe
Phillipe,

Just as a reference, please see the 2 accounts on the links below. You can clearly see the effect of the 3MAC closure had on the balance and the equity. Both accounts are running 36b version and had large closures with losses. That set back the account a bit. I know it will recover but 3 or 4 of these in a row can do a devastating affect on the equity and the capital.

See the trading history when the closures happened. Just want to help to sort this out. :)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... oCotGumvvs

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... yKIpDZGiAX

From today I have changed these to the 40C so we will see the difference in the coming weeks.

Frank

Hi Frank,

I did not manage to go to your fxbook by using the link, anyway if i understand you right you would recommend to turn of 3MACD close right ?
Author:  phil_trade [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

Phillipe,

Just as a reference, please see the 2 accounts on the links below. You can clearly see the effect of the 3MAC closure had on the balance and the equity. Both accounts are running 36b version and had large closures with losses. That set back the account a bit. I know it will recover but 3 or 4 of these in a row can do a devastating affect on the equity and the capital.

See the trading history when the closures happened. Just want to help to sort this out. :)

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... oCotGumvvs

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nubika/ ... yKIpDZGiAX

From today I have changed these to the 40C so we will see the difference in the coming weeks.

Frank
Hi Frank

Nothing to see in this link. May be not public ? please check.

Close on 3MACD must be setup with precision, Especially DeltaPipsBetweenMACDtoCloseTrade parameters to avoid too quickly close.

without this parameters, I could not achieved this :
Marilyn back to summit.PNG
Author:  nubika [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

kwittusen wrote: Hi Frank,

I did not manage to go to your fxbook by using the link, anyway if i understand you right you would recommend to turn of 3MACD close right ?
Yes change it to FALSE, and the links above do work now.
But please understand it is only my way of making it work. Philippe is the originator and it is his baby, he has other ideas and is working on improving this even further. As it is good enough for me. :)

Frank
Author:  Zypip [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

nubika wrote:
... I know it will recover but 3 or 4 of these in a row can do a devastating affect on the equity and the capital....


Frank
Hi Frank,

That should not be a problem if you were to reduce your exposure a bit. 0.05 lot / 3000$ may be a bit high for this long-term trend-following system. I think Philippe would use 0.01 lot per 1000$.

Cheers,

Zyp
Author:  phil_trade [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Macd Stochastic Fractal MA5/25 Daily Marylin

Zypip wrote:
nubika wrote:
... I know it will recover but 3 or 4 of these in a row can do a devastating affect on the equity and the capital....


Frank
Hi Frank,

That should not be a problem if you were to reduce your exposure a bit. 0.05 lot / 3000$ may be a bit high for this long-term trend-following system. I think Philippe would use 0.01 lot per 1000$.

Cheers,

Zyp

Oh YES ! 0.01 / 1000 $ MINIMUM !

it's a statistical view : about 50% bad trades with €/$ between 2009/2013 BUT winner's trades paid for losses !
To Get through bad period, you MUST trade low ! This is a very big important rules in Forex
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