The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

[MikeB]

GT3RS,

Everytime xrismak is posting something he always mention Symphaty. Everytime he post something he "teach" everyone who is "damn good teacher and trader".

If you can't use that information then i'am sorry for you.

Good luck.

GT3RS is referring to charts shown in profit with no explanation of why he took the trade(s).
How would you use this information then? Try and run down Sympathy and hope he'll be your mentor? It begs the question: If you have it down and you're taking the time to post, why not spread some information about what you've learned from Sympathy? BTW, Sympathy has long left the building......a couple of years ago. XR was here when Sympathy was active.
I'm not bashing or defending anyone, just asking.

[tomele]

There is a general problem of people posting results.

Everyone is a star posting winning trades. But what about losing trades? Will he post them and give us the complete picture? I bet not. Everyone wants to look like a winner. Only unprejudiced test results will tell the truth.

Cheers

[Wavegarrick]

Hi Guys,

Since I started following CJ's method at the beginning of March 2018. No thumbsucking or taking chances. My manual trading has gone up a notch. There is no way to show how trades are opened all the time. Opportunities arize and you get in. I would not follow this method if I was losing. The motto is simple, learn and trade like CJ or at least get close to it and I feel that I do not even have a close resemblance to what some guys are doing here. The learning process is slow and patience is a virtue. I am optimistic however.

If you want examples of how trades are opened I suggest you read the thread again. This is manual trading and no trader can simulate exact results, we are all different.

The buck starts with you

Have a great weekend,

Cheers
Leon

[rewand]

There is a general problem of people posting results.

Everyone is a star posting winning trades. But what about losing trades? Will he post them and give us the complete picture? I bet not. Everyone wants to look like a winner. Only unprejudiced test results will tell the truth.

Cheers

The problem with your view is that instead of focusing to fully understand what has been said, you are focusing on other people's performance. In the end it will be you who has to work hard to understand the concepts and make decisions. Would it count if I told you how I perform? Behind performance there are plenty of factors, absolutely unrelated to trading. If you know the concepts and rules laid out here then you will start to realize that they are superb. But you as a person may still fail to execute on them, because you are not CJ, not Sympathy, etc. You want complete picture... then take responsibility, read and apply, fail, read and apply, fail, read and finally make it. There is no truth here, except the illusion created by your own self, the hardest nut to crack.

[MikeB]

Hi Guys,

Since I started following CJ's method at the beginning of March 2018. No thumbsucking or taking chances. My manual trading has gone up a notch. There is no way to show how trades are opened all the time. Opportunities arize and you get in. I would not follow this method if I was losing. The motto is simple, learn and trade like CJ or at least get close to it and I feel that I do not even have a close resemblance to what some guys are doing here. The learning process is slow and patience is a virtue. I am optimistic however.

If you want examples of how trades are opened I suggest you read the thread again. This is manual trading and no trader can simulate exact results, we are all different.

The buck starts with you

Have a great weekend,

Cheers
Leon

Hello Leon,
We've all heard and seen the "Go read the thread and take responsibility for yourself" reprimand/lecture for just about every question ever asked in this forum. But for a trader who posts multiple charts in profit, I don't think it's out of bounds for a member to ask what they're doing. Maybe it's a simple line for a level or a highlighted pattern, it's not difficult. But to each his own, like you say everyone is different, and no one is required to hand anyone the tools to a fortune on a platter.
I'm thankful for all of the contributors here who have taken the time to explain with examples their niche with this method. I've learned a piece of the puzzle from several of them. As a result I've narrowed my focus to the repeating patterns, where I've had the most success. Hopefully, I can in some way contribute a piece of the puzzle to help someone else to get dialed in.
Good luck and good trading everyone!

[fundi]

Hello Leon,
We've all heard and seen the "Go read the thread and take responsibility for yourself" reprimand/lecture for just about every question ever asked in this forum. But for a trader who posts multiple charts in profit, I don't think it's out of bounds for a member to ask what they're doing. Maybe it's a simple line for a level or a highlighted pattern, it's not difficult. But to each his own, like you say everyone is different, and no one is required to hand anyone the tools to a fortune on a platter.
I'm thankful for all of the contributors here who have taken the time to explain with examples their niche with this method. I've learned a piece of the puzzle from several of them. As a result I've narrowed my focus to the repeating patterns, where I've had the most success. Hopefully, I can in some way contribute a piece of the puzzle to help someone else to get dialed in.
Good luck and good trading everyone!

I absolutely agree, especially with the highlighted

That's why I annotate my charts

I believe all that CJ said can be distilled into two words: repeating patterns ( pushes, levels, BARF, Ms, Ws, price maps, etc )

[fundi]

@Tomele:

While I don't like Rambo's mantra that people are not ready so some learned concepts are withheld, this thread is full of live/closed examples of heavily stacked trades. If you knew where price is going in the next while ( whether 1 hour or 1 month ), you would maximize. CJ always taught this

@Rambo:

Sad to see you go. I wish you answered some of my questions; not all of us are lazy bums waiting to be handed info. We learn differently. Just pour out what you know (like CJ), and people will pick it up as they continue in their learning stages. I don't believe in with-holding; freely received, freely give.

Cheers :hi:

Like I said...

[fundi]

GT3RS is referring to charts shown in profit with no explanation of why he took the trade(s).
How would you use this information then? Try and run down Sympathy and hope he'll be your mentor? It begs the question: If you have it down and you're taking the time to post, why not spread some information about what you've learned from Sympathy? BTW, Sympathy has long left the building......a couple of years ago. XR was here when Sympathy was active.
I'm not bashing or defending anyone, just asking.

I agree 100%

Example: Dudest hunted down CJ and got to understand the A-B-C (stop-hunt pattern), and shared it so much here that people started complaining that this was now an A-B-C thread.

That's the spirit

[dydynamic]

There is a general problem of people posting results.

Everyone is a star posting winning trades. But what about losing trades? Will he post them and give us the complete picture? I bet not. Everyone wants to look like a winner. Only unprejudiced test results will tell the truth.

Cheers

Listen guys, Tomele is a meticulous coder and he knows what he is saying...
We only show our winning trades as if we never loose...
there is no strategy that cannot be coded, if we present the complete picture of those winning trades, I believe Tomele can code it and it will be beneficial to all of us retail traders......
We should stop deceiving ourselves, the big boys(The big 8 banks that control the Forex world) do not do naked trading, they have profs and phd holders from Harvard that are paid six figures to code for them algorithms worth billions of dollars that they use to trade....
The foxes work together to fleece the retail traders and when they(big boys) get into trouble(this happens very often) they bail each other out,but we the retail traders are always at each other's throat, a house that is divided can never stand talk-more of winning.......
CJ's or Sympathy's or whosoever method is cod-able.... :youknow: :youknow:
Show the big picture of your winning trades....... :hi:

[dydynamic]

There is a general problem of people posting results.

Everyone is a star posting winning trades. But what about losing trades? Will he post them and give us the complete picture? I bet not. Everyone wants to look like a winner. Only unprejudiced test results will tell the truth.

Cheers

Listen guys, Tomele is a meticulous coder and he knows what he is saying...
We only show our winning trades as if we never loose...
there is no strategy that cannot be coded, if we present the complete picture of those winning trades, I believe Tomele can code it and it will be beneficial to all of us retail traders......
We should stop deceiving ourselves, the big boys(The big 8 banks that control the Forex world) do not do naked trading, they have profs and phd holders from Harvard that are paid six figures to code for them algorithms worth billions of dollars that they use to trade....
The foxes work together to fleece the retail traders and when they(big boys) get into trouble(this happens very often) they bail each other out,but we the retail traders are always at each other's throat, a house that is divided can never stand talk-more of winning.......
CJ's or Sympathy's or whosoever method is cod-able.... :youknow: :youknow:
Show the big picture of your winning trades....... :hi:

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