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Author:  odellcash [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:51 am ]
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f451 wrote:first off - the level counting is guide -sometimes the trend is too strong for a reversal, so there might be 4 or 5 or move days of push. Typically there are three pushes, but that's only typically. if you can't see the levels, move on to another chart where you can.
Thanks, I think I just need to be hit over the head with things. If in doubt let the pair ride out out till I see a revers and can get my count going again

f451 wrote:on higher timeframe charts stop hunts can and do last for days - on a 15M chart the stop hunt is probably around 4 to 8 bars. it depends on how big a position fox needs to accumulate or offload.
This one still bugs me. I can see the hunts on 15M, and they do often happen at end of Asia, start of London. But I still question why that one push is a stop hunt and not a push. Oh well, I'm a young hunter, hopefully it will come to me.
f451 wrote:I've marked up your chart with my understanding of the level count - I think the three push idea actually hold here - at least that's my interpretation
It does once you say that a higher high (the gap close) "resets" the count. Nice! Thanks
f451 wrote:with regards to returning to previous price levels - that will happen, and I don't think you can plan for it - I would just move on to another pair and trade something more obvious.
Guess I was thinking about holding a long term position for all 3 levels, maybe, I should save the advanced trades for later. ;)
Author:  Larryk [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:09 am ]
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On all JPY pairs at this time RRT's on 4H charts. If you combine the 2 candles you get an 8H pin of note

Larry

I shorted them all!
Author:  Pueo [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:19 am ]
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Larryk wrote:On all JPY pairs at this time RRT's on 4H charts. If you combine the 2 candles you get an 8H pin of note

Larry

I shorted them all!
Good luck with that. We haven't had the stop hunt yet though if they're really going down...
Author:  kwanann [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:02 am ]
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Larryk wrote:On all JPY pairs at this time RRT's on 4H charts. If you combine the 2 candles you get an 8H pin of note

Larry

I shorted them all!
Shorting is possible, but you might want to add in a BE SL just in case things don't go your way.

Remember NFP is in another 5 hours.

* take a look at the monthly chart for an alternative view.

* also take a look at the 1h chart
Author:  kwanann [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:05 am ]
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odellcash wrote:
f451 wrote:with regards to returning to previous price levels - that will happen, and I don't think you can plan for it - I would just move on to another pair and trade something more obvious.
Guess I was thinking about holding a long term position for all 3 levels, maybe, I should save the advanced trades for later. ;)
That was what happened to me before i found CJ. Well i'm basing it on fundamentals back then, that JPY will go up, and any short will eventually turn back into a long.

so.. i bought usdjpy right when it was at its peak of 96. TERRIBLE choice. It went downhill from there till about 92.

As i knew that it will eventually go up, i held onto the position, and ended up with a 400pips DD per lot. Of course i added extra positions along its way down, which added to my DD.

If you are ok with such a DD, you are welcome to trade that way, but i don't generally recommend this as the DD will affect your ability to take on other trades that will profit
Author:  xrismak [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:44 am ]
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kwanann wrote:
odellcash wrote:
f451 wrote:with regards to returning to previous price levels - that will happen, and I don't think you can plan for it - I would just move on to another pair and trade something more obvious.
Guess I was thinking about holding a long term position for all 3 levels, maybe, I should save the advanced trades for later. ;)
That was what happened to me before i found CJ. Well i'm basing it on fundamentals back then, that JPY will go up, and any short will eventually turn back into a long.

so.. i bought usdjpy right when it was at its peak of 96. TERRIBLE choice. It went downhill from there till about 92.

As i knew that it will eventually go up, i held onto the position, and ended up with a 400pips DD per lot. Of course i added extra positions along its way down, which added to my DD.

If you are ok with such a DD, you are welcome to trade that way, but i don't generally recommend this as the DD will affect your ability to take on other trades that will profit

Kwannan,

Good morning, well it's been a good one for me Again this Morning, now I am off to Bed, I sometimes don't Hang Around too long for the Major News Events to spoil my Day with Trades, I am in and Out like a Flash with the Profits.

Happy Trading Y'all.

xrismak. ;)
Author:  xrismak [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:53 am ]
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kwanann wrote:
xrismak wrote: Kwannan,

Good morning, well it's been a good one for me Again this Morning, now I am off to Bed, I sometimes don't Hang Around too long for the Major News Events to spoil my Day with Trades, I am in and Out like a Flash with the Profits.

Happy Trading Y'all.

xrismak. ;)
hi xrismak!

Glad you are making pips and outwitting the fox :D

I had a fantastic day yesterday, final count i grew my account by 50% (looks nice in %, ridiculous in $ terms)

now putting in long term trades again and then its time to wait for things to happen

Kwannan,
Good to hear that, now we all seem to be getting a better Understanding of Naked Trading and Outwitting the Fox, this is just like Bread and Butter, I am supprised at how much I have made myself this week, my Local Bank Manager will soon become my friend hahahahahahaha...

Happy Trading Y'all,

xrismak ;)
Author:  kwanann [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:55 am ]
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xrismak wrote:
kwanann wrote:
xrismak wrote: Kwannan,

Good morning, well it's been a good one for me Again this Morning, now I am off to Bed, I sometimes don't Hang Around too long for the Major News Events to spoil my Day with Trades, I am in and Out like a Flash with the Profits.

Happy Trading Y'all.

xrismak. ;)
hi xrismak!

Glad you are making pips and outwitting the fox :D

I had a fantastic day yesterday, final count i grew my account by 50% (looks nice in %, ridiculous in $ terms)

now putting in long term trades again and then its time to wait for things to happen

Kwannan,
Good to hear that, now we all seem to be getting a better Understanding of Naked Trading and Outwitting the Fox, this is just like Bread and Butter, I am supprised at how much I have made myself this week, myLocal Bank Manager will soon become my friend hahahahahahaha...

Happy Trading Y'all,

xrismak ;)
Haha unfortunately due to the sudden account growth, my broker is now giving me special treatment. getting loads of trade context error, requote, too much slippage and crap :lol:
Author:  kwanann [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:58 am ]
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Got a few peeps asking me for the indi that i had on my screen. please refer to attached
Author:  Pueo [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:59 am ]
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So we had the stop hunt out of the asian range on euro and now a W is confirming on 15 minute. I'm going long, looking for price to clear the highs..
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