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cmeade2 [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:16 pm ]

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Re: NeoTraders NB Indicator Lab

NeoTrader wrote:hi cmeade2,
cmeade2 wrote:Thanks so much for you response, but I don't think you got my question. Following on your initiative, I would like to apply the 21 SMA to the H1 and H4 TMA slopes, calculated by your indicator.

You have made this great indicator so that I can have a chart set up at M15 while I can display the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. But it seems that if I want to apply a 21 SMA to these curves, I can't simply drag the MA indicator to the chart and enter "21" for the MA period. It seems that I have to enter the longer periods that I noted previously.

Does this make sense?
Not really...

I'm also working on M15 or H1 Charts and use only the 21 MA on the TMAs of the 3 TFs...
But this is only a suggestion...

You can try your MAs...I'm also experimenting with different MA's.

The values and calculation of you MA Period Settings are also ok and can work...this is nothing that I chiseled in stone...see it as guidelines...and do your own research...and if you find a good or better combination share it with us...

happy trading,

NeoTrader

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Neo

Thanks again for your reply.

OK sounds like you are using the same setup as me. Focusing on your windows with the H1 and H4 TMA slopes, my comment is that 21 SMA in these windows is not correct. Basically the moving average is being applied on the M15 timescale so it is only going back about 5 hours. By comparison, it should be going back 21 hours in the H1 window.

I was triggered on this issue as I noted how the H4 window behaved and how the TMA slope line was always so close the moving average and jumping across it all the time.

This would become clear if your MTF slope indicator plotted as a series of points, rather than as a line. On the H1 and H4 windows it plots as a flat line while the H1 and H4 bars are still open and active. But my guess is that there still are a number of points on these flat lines. And these points are being counted as part of the moving average.

Does this make sense? I can post some plots to illustrate my points.

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Author:	spotdespot [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:03 am ]
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SaiMan wrote:Hi Neo Trader and everyone, Firstly, many many thanks for these indicators and your generosity in sharing them. Very much appreciated! A quick question regarding the NT TMATrue SlopeHisto MTF. Is it possible to set up this indi so that it appears only on selected TFs? I'm trying to get it to appear only on H1 and below, but not having much luck - I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to Empty4. Thanks again and kind regards, Simon Simon - just right click, indicators, edit the one you want and go to the Visualisation tab & choose whatever timeframes you want. Default is always all timeframes. Cheers, Dave. Edit: Weird - you posted your reply way before mine but I didn't see it at all Neo....

Author:	SaiMan [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:29 am ]
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Awesome, thanks guys!

Author:	cmeade2 [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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Hi Neo I have a question about your MTF TMA slope indicator. I have tried to set up as you suggested over on the slope forum. Basically I use a M15 chart and then I set up 3 of the TMA slopes at M15, H1, and H4. And then as you suggest I apply a 21 SMA to the TMA slopes. My question is whether I should use a "21" time period for the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. From what I can see by comparing to other charts, the MA values for the H1 and H4 charts are not correct when I have the M15 setup as described above. It seems that I need 421=84 for the H1 and and 1621=336 for the H4. Is this correct?

Author:	NeoTrader [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:44 pm ]
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hi cmeade2 cmeade2 wrote:I have a question about your MTF TMA slope indicator. I have tried to set up as you suggested over on the slope forum. Basically I use a M15 chart and then I set up 3 of the TMA slopes at M15, H1, and H4. And then as you suggest I apply a 21 SMA to the TMA slopes. My question is whether I should use a "21" time period for the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. From what I can see by comparing to other charts, the MA values for the H1 and H4 charts are not correct when I have the M15 setup as described above. It seems that I need 421=84 for the H1 and and 1621=336 for the H4. Is this correct? As of now I have only SMA 21 applied on al TFs... but I'm also experimenting with following combination... TMA M15 - SMA 5 TMA H1 - SMA 21 TMA H4 - SMA 89 but you can also use the combination TMA M15 - SMA 5 TMA H1 - SMA 20 TMA H4 - SMA 80 it's only my fable for the Fibonacci sequence why I use the numbers above... happy trading, NeoTrader

Author:	cmeade2 [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:14 am ]
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NeoTrader wrote:hi cmeade2 cmeade2 wrote:I have a question about your MTF TMA slope indicator. I have tried to set up as you suggested over on the slope forum. Basically I use a M15 chart and then I set up 3 of the TMA slopes at M15, H1, and H4. And then as you suggest I apply a 21 SMA to the TMA slopes. My question is whether I should use a "21" time period for the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. From what I can see by comparing to other charts, the MA values for the H1 and H4 charts are not correct when I have the M15 setup as described above. It seems that I need 421=84 for the H1 and and 1621=336 for the H4. Is this correct? As of now I have only SMA 21 applied on al TFs... but I'm also experimenting with following combination... TMA M15 - SMA 5 TMA H1 - SMA 21 TMA H4 - SMA 89 but you can also use the combination TMA M15 - SMA 5 TMA H1 - SMA 20 TMA H4 - SMA 80 it's only my fable for the Fibonacci sequence why I use the numbers above... happy trading, NeoTrader Neo Thanks so much for you response, but I don't think you got my question. Following on your initiative, I would like to apply the 21 SMA to the H1 and H4 TMA slopes, calculated by your indicator. You have made this great indicator so that I can have a chart set up at M15 while I can display the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. But it seems that if I want to apply a 21 SMA to these curves, I can't simply drag the MA indicator to the chart and enter "21" for the MA period. It seems that I have to enter the longer periods that I noted previously. Does this make sense?

Author:	NeoTrader [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:40 am ]
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hi cmeade2, cmeade2 wrote:Thanks so much for you response, but I don't think you got my question. Following on your initiative, I would like to apply the 21 SMA to the H1 and H4 TMA slopes, calculated by your indicator. You have made this great indicator so that I can have a chart set up at M15 while I can display the H1 and H4 TMA slopes. But it seems that if I want to apply a 21 SMA to these curves, I can't simply drag the MA indicator to the chart and enter "21" for the MA period. It seems that I have to enter the longer periods that I noted previously. Does this make sense? Not really... I'm also working on M15 or H1 Charts and use only the 21 MA on the TMAs of the 3 TFs... But this is only a suggestion... You can try your MAs...I'm also experimenting with different MA's. The values and calculation of you MA Period Settings are also ok and can work...this is nothing that I chiseled in stone...see it as guidelines...and do your own research...and if you find a good or better combination share it with us... happy trading, NeoTrader -

Author:	cmeade2 [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:33 pm ]
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Neo Here are some more details At 13:30 GMT on the Eur/USD plot, focusing on the H1 window, the TMA slope is 0.038. If I put a 21 SMA indicator on this window, the value of the MA is +0.134 and the TMA slope is below it. But as I said, this is not the a 21 hour value of the moving average. A true 21 hour value would be -0.2468 and the TMA slope would be above it. In other words, the opposite of the above. Does this make sense.

Author:	NeoTrader [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:16 pm ]
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And here we go again... NT_RT_TMA Current Version: v.1.0.0 released on 22.08.2012 New Version nt_rt_tma all rules and manual ruleset.gif Description: Indicator for Testing Rules and Rulesets based on TMA and Pivots This Indicator is meant to be used as Research/Analysis Platform do define/test Rules and Rulesets (multiple Rules) based on the TMA and Pivots. You are able to combine different Rules into one Ruleset that will trigger buy or sell signals. You can also use it to analyze Exit signals (opposite direction of entry signal) This is only a subset of my main Rule/Ruleset Tester that I use to test different Strategies and Rules. I put this together to enable our community members to do a faster research/analysis for their TMA/Pivot based strategies. Credits go to: ZZNBRM - TMA & TMA True calculations Baluda - DWM Pivots indicator Features: 3 Different TMA Rules to Test Entry/Exit based on Level, Angle and/or TMA-MA Cross 1 Rule to Test different Pivot and Pivot/Price Combinations Up to 7 Rules can be combined in one manual Ruleset Signal Trigger can be all Rules confirm one direction or number of Rules confirm one Direction No external Indicator is needed...TMA and Pivots are integrated All Settings for TMA available (tmaPeriod, artPeriod, tmaMode) Multiple Pivot combinations available (any combination of Daily, Weekly, Monthly and Price) I release this as ex4 only for now. If you want to reuse your configurations save them as templates. If you have any further Feature Requests (eg. Rules) or find any Bugs please inform me here on the thread. NeoTrader Download in Post 3 -

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