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Re: 10.4 A Complete System

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TraderDesk wrote:
tommiho wrote:
Hi, just gathering some thoughts and forgot to thank you and ask you about ADR. How many days ADR would you use? I use to have it set on 10 days but I saw 3 days and even 20 days. While JPY is going so steep these days wouldn`t the shorter span of days be more telling? Just trying to prepare for the next week.The pivots will be out of place next week as Bob said so the ADR could give me some guidelines how far the move could go.
Thank you
Hi Tommiho,

Nothing is in concrete but I like to take the 10 day value when volatility has been on average otherwise on big moves I go with a 60 day average...

What I do after a big move like the last few days is to apply the HA indi I posted awhile back and set it on the 5 minute time frame... When price action crosses the blue average I have a high probability that the current trend has slowed/leveled/reverse so I will close some my positions there...

ADR I use as well for some of positions as it is a good way to normally wring out those pips for the day...On a strong trending day they are not the best to use so I use the above HA...

Price action for me means everything... All the indi's are lagging as well as providing overbought/sell signals that don't work in a strong trend in that timeframe... ADR reflects price action, Heiken Ashi reflects price action, my neocortex understands price action... :) So what I look for is to learn patterns in the currencies I trade in. No EA or indi will make me a successful trader but understanding visually the currencies I trade and applying strict risk management rules will have me going in the right direction... In this day and age forex is called a zero-sum market. What I understand is that the big players that trade FX do not do it to make money but to sort out imbalances within the asset classes of their domain. I make money by hitching a ride on their so-call corrections to those imbalances and I take care to float within the largest current monetary flow.

In trading you can use different methods that can do the same thing, just visually look different. For example 10.4 uses the 240ma as a daily directional bias for trades. One of my trading methods is to use HA on a daily TF. Price crossover on the HA is the same as the 240ma. I posted a picture below on the GBP/JPY of HA crossover as well as 10.4. Two different pictures but the same result. It is so important to get to know each currency pair that you trade in...

There are many pieces to trading in FX and it takes time to learn it... 10.4 I believe should be used as a framework and you add the other pieces to it... there are no hard and fast rules except when it comes to capital preservation, at least for me. :) My opinion only :D
Hi,
thank you for the answer.It is always a good read.
You are right, the Forex jungle is a thick one and in the beginning you think you have to use the all sorts of tools they are to get through.The further you go the more apparent it is that simplicity combined with PA is the way to go. Fox is not cutting down the trees to get pass them, it is slinking around fast and unharmed.Couldn`t help, not to say it :).
As you said and many before you 10.4 is a great system, if you are a beginner or has been trading for some time.If combined with the visual side of price movement it is becoming a very powerful way of trading.
I know this is just general many times said bla bla stuff, but patience, good MM with clear set of rules when to get in and to get out can get you out of the harms way.Why is it clear now and not while trading, that`s the question, probably can`t see through the dollar signs in my eyes or my head is just not big enough to keep it inside and simple use it when needed.
Enough said about the theory back to the head clearing for Monday.
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Re: 10.4 A Complete System

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Early last week Bob said:
nanningbob wrote:I have said this many times, fundamental news trumps any system, even CJ, Today is a fundamental news day when a govt. plans on takng major action on a currency. I have JPY sells all across the board. 10.4 rules mean nothing. JPY is in a major DT and we are seeing a rally in that DT. The only currency I have doubts is the E/J but today I wlll even try to buy it. I have buy pendings on every jpy pair this morning. I have been talking about this moment for weeks. The day has arrived for the JPY politicians to put up or shut up. This is the program they ran on and got elected on. Good luck
I took this sage advice to heart. I closed a couple of losing non-yen trades I had open and focused mainly on EJ, but a few others too. I made good use of the scale-in scripts and kept buying as I rode the wave. Several times, when I couldn't stand it, I closed some of the earlier winners to lock in pips. I also increased my normal lot size. I figured since this fundamental news was such a rare occasion, I would be not crazy not to use it to my best advantage.

Thursday evening, I closed all of my trades, but left several scaled-in pendings above. During the night I had a whole new batch of trades open up! Finally on Friday at lunch time, I closed all trades and took a breather. I was kind of sorry I closed out so soon because EJ kept on rising for the last few trading hours. But as they say, no one ever went broke taking profits.

For the week I locked in 1,152 pips and my account increased 27%!!! Yikes!

Bob ( and Steve & CJ), thank you so much for your continued advice and inspiration.

Fantastic! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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MurphyMan wrote:
I took this sage advice to heart. I closed a couple of losing non-yen trades I had open and focused mainly on EJ, but a few others too. I made good use of the scale-in scripts and kept buying as I rode the wave. Several times, when I couldn't stand it, I closed some of the earlier winners to lock in pips. I also increased my normal lot size. I figured since this fundamental news was such a rare occasion, I would be not crazy not to use it to my best advantage.

Thursday evening, I closed all of my trades, but left several scaled-in pendings above. During the night I had a whole new batch of trades open up! Finally on Friday at lunch time, I closed all trades and took a breather. I was kind of sorry I closed out so soon because EJ kept on rising for the last few trading hours. But as they say, no one ever went broke taking profits.

For the week I locked in 1,152 pips and my account increased 27%!!! Yikes!

Bob ( and Steve & CJ), thank you so much for your continued advice and inspiration.

Fantastic! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sam
That is great to read, Sam. Well done. We go back a long way now, and it is great that you had such a magic couple of days.

:D
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Hey guys. fx800 has come up with a neat idea for using Gday M2 for re-entering the xxxJPY trades next week.

Read his contribution at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 785#p52785, then post one in the thread to download the ea and find out how it works.

You would set StochTimeFrame to 60 to enter after a retrace and resumption on the M60, 30 on the M30 etc.
Read the effing manual, ok?

Afterprime is the official SHF broker. Read about them at https://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=175790#p175790.

I still suffer from OCCD. Good thing, really.

Anyone here feeling generous? My paypal account is always in the market for a tiny donation. pianodoodler@hotmail.com is the account.

To see The Weekly Roundup of stuff you guys might have missed Click here

My special thanks to Thomas (tomele) for all the incredible work he does here.
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I know there are several people in here from FF. I recognize some names and I am sure there are others, like myself, who opted to change their screen names. I go back to 2006, was known as Hard1head1. I was also one of Money Ducks cronies. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows where the likes of Money Duck, London Dave, Phillip Nell, Tamkras or Donna Beerman are now. Tamkras had an interesting scheme where she used inside tops and inside bottoms. Does anyone know or even remember? They were good friends who just dissappeared. Anyway, just thought I would reach out.
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Hey Steve

Looking at the Stoch 5,3,3 on Bob's 10.5 framework (i.e., H1) you had an excellent signal to get in after the pull back on Friday for the yen pairs.

cmeade2
SteveHopwood wrote:Hey guys. fx800 has come up with a neat idea for using Gday M2 for re-entering the xxxJPY trades next week.

Read his contribution at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 785#p52785, then post one in the thread to download the ea and find out how it works.

You would set StochTimeFrame to 60 to enter after a retrace and resumption on the M60, 30 on the M30 etc.
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Hi guys, I wonder if anyone is using the BE strategy as per 10.4 rules successfully (moving stop loss after 2nd trade was entered), I mean not to get hit BE too often.If not what has been working for you?I my self was experimenting with MPTM instead .If this was answered already I am sorry just couldn`t find it in the history.Thank you
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cmeade2 wrote:Hey Steve

Looking at the Stoch 5,3,3 on Bob's 10.5 framework (i.e., H1) you had an excellent signal to get in after the pull back on Friday for the yen pairs.

cmeade2
SteveHopwood wrote:Hey guys. fx800 has come up with a neat idea for using Gday M2 for re-entering the xxxJPY trades next week.

Read his contribution at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 785#p52785, then post one in the thread to download the ea and find out how it works.

You would set StochTimeFrame to 60 to enter after a retrace and resumption on the M60, 30 on the M30 etc.
I agree, I would prefer stoch 5,3,3 to 7,2,2.

Please check out the charts I posted yesterday on page 290, the torquoise line is 5.3,3 linear weighted close.
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Right I have the same setup from Bob's framework.

In general, I am finding that if you have a flat line on the H4 RSI(2) at high/low levels, then the H1 stoch 5,3,3, gives a great indication of when to get back in the trend. In this case the stoch is the opposite of the RSI(2). Friday for the yen pairs was a great example. But as I look back at charts there are many more examples, though not as profitable.
fx8000 wrote:
cmeade2 wrote:Hey Steve

Looking at the Stoch 5,3,3 on Bob's 10.5 framework (i.e., H1) you had an excellent signal to get in after the pull back on Friday for the yen pairs.

cmeade2
SteveHopwood wrote:Hey guys. fx800 has come up with a neat idea for using Gday M2 for re-entering the xxxJPY trades next week.

Read his contribution at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 785#p52785, then post one in the thread to download the ea and find out how it works.

You would set StochTimeFrame to 60 to enter after a retrace and resumption on the M60, 30 on the M30 etc.
I agree, I would prefer stoch 5,3,3 to 7,2,2.

Please check out the charts I posted yesterday on page 290, the torquoise line is 5.3,3 linear weighted close.
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cmeade2 wrote:Right I have the same setup from Bob's framework.

In general, I am finding that if you have a flat line on the H4 RSI(2) at high/low levels, then the H1 stoch 5,3,3, gives a great indication of when to get back in the trend. In this case the stoch is the opposite of the RSI(2). Friday for the yen pairs was a great example. But as I look back at charts there are many more examples, though not as profitable.
fx8000 wrote:
cmeade2 wrote:Hey Steve

Looking at the Stoch 5,3,3 on Bob's 10.5 framework (i.e., H1) you had an excellent signal to get in after the pull back on Friday for the yen pairs.

cmeade2
SteveHopwood wrote:Hey guys. fx800 has come up with a neat idea for using Gday M2 for re-entering the xxxJPY trades next week.

Read his contribution at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 785#p52785, then post one in the thread to download the ea and find out how it works.

You would set StochTimeFrame to 60 to enter after a retrace and resumption on the M60, 30 on the M30 etc.
I agree, I would prefer stoch 5,3,3 to 7,2,2.

Please check out the charts I posted yesterday on page 290, the torquoise line is 5.3,3 linear weighted close.
Let 's try out Steve's Gday mk2 ea next week on yen pairs and see what happens. Set trading tf to 60, trade long only.
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