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Hopelessly confused by TDesk or Desky? Ask here.

spart2509 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:01 pm wrote:
Josh » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:04 am wrote: Thank you Steve. I have tried to have more instances on same platform but different charts without success - do you mean multiple instance by setting up different platforms or different charts?
Hi Josh
I’m having the same problem you are steve did mention You can have multiple instances of Desky with the pairs you want trading different lot sizes in your PairsToTrade input but I can’t find a ‘PairsToTrade’ input in Desky only in TDesk

Sorry folks. I have slightly confused the issue here.

There is indeed no PairsToTrade input in Desky. Desky is purely a TDesk drone, apart from the counter-trend trading option that I do not think anyone uses. In all other respects, Desky responds purely to what TDesk produces.

I am used to dealing with multi-pair bots that have the PairsToTrade input, which is where my confusion arises.

You might be surprised initially when I write that I do not understand TDesk and do not use him.

Think about it for a few seconds and it will make sense. There must be about a zillion far better programmers than me. A pro like Rene was born understanding more about programming than I would learn if I spent the rest of my life studying it.

Having said that, you would have to do a lot or pointless searching to find a coder who has written more EA's for Empty4 than me. Thomas wrote TDesk so that you non-coders could automate your own systems without needing to ask the likes of me to code it for you.

I do not need this facility. I simply adapt one of my shells when I have an idea ergo, I do not use TDesk. Which is why I do not understand him. So why can I still write Desky? Because all Desky does is respond to signals generated by TDesk. All I did whilst Thomas was developing TDesk was add to Desky the ability to respond to the new signal generated.

So, if you want Desky to respond to different TDesk subsets, then you have to lobby Thomas to add the ability to TDesk. Good luck with that. Given the staggering coding that went into developing TDesk, I am not entirely sure you will receive a sympathetic response.

Best to do so here, where you are allowed to post without (much) risk of getting shouted at.

I just had a thought. You can always run the TDesk/Desky combo on separate terminals, all accessing the same account. Life could get dreadfully complicated though, what with magic numbers, global basket TP's etc. Best, perhaps, to go with the amazing stuff you already have and stop trying to break it?

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Author:	spart2509 [ Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:25 pm ]
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Hi All Not sure if I am asking this in the right section but I’m after a way of placing trades with Desky with different lot sizes for different pairs kind of like ‘hard lot sizing’ except it would be ‘hard lot sizing per pair’ where you can enter a text string like AUDUSD/0.01,EURUSD/0.05 etc, I’m not sure if the coders will be adding something like this in the future I am aware they have added ‘differential lot sizing’ which as far as I gather (I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed) adjusts lot sizes so one pips currency value is the same across all pairs sort of like a ‘base currency value per pip’ setting, however this is not exactly what I was looking for as I change the lot sizes according to the trend, I use this to trade a higher pip value when the pair is on a strong long term trend and less when the pair is ranging and false starts that are hitting stop losses more frequently then use a higher lot size for the pair basket so it works out that the extra that is made on a good run covers all the stoploss hits on ranging and false starts. If anyone else is uses different lot sizes per pair I would love some advice I’m not sure if there is any other ea’s that can use TDesk signals to do this or if anyone a lot smarter than I am at code (code looks like some mysterious long lost form of written language to me so not hard) that can share there code and some instructions or any other advice on how I may accomplish this. I would like to also ask the coders if they where not intending to implement something like this if they would consider it however I understand if you decide not to as you are busy between Desky, Tdesk and all the indicators and ea’s you guys are coding and there may not be enough people that would use it to warrant it. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks everyone :hi: Spart

Author:	SteveHopwood [ Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Hopelessly confused by TDesk or Desky? Ask here.
spart2509 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:25 pm wrote:Hi All Not sure if I am asking this in the right section but I’m after a way of placing trades with Desky with different lot sizes for different pairs kind of like ‘hard lot sizing’ except it would be ‘hard lot sizing per pair’ where you can enter a text string like AUDUSD/0.01,EURUSD/0.05 etc, I’m not sure if the coders will be adding something like this in the future I am aware they have added ‘differential lot sizing’ which as far as I gather (I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed) adjusts lot sizes so one pips currency value is the same across all pairs sort of like a ‘base currency value per pip’ setting, however this is not exactly what I was looking for as I change the lot sizes according to the trend, I use this to trade a higher pip value when the pair is on a strong long term trend and less when the pair is ranging and false starts that are hitting stop losses more frequently then use a higher lot size for the pair basket so it works out that the extra that is made on a good run covers all the stoploss hits on ranging and false starts. If anyone else is uses different lot sizes per pair I would love some advice I’m not sure if there is any other ea’s that can use TDesk signals to do this or if anyone a lot smarter than I am at code (code looks like some mysterious long lost form of written language to me so not hard) that can share there code and some instructions or any other advice on how I may accomplish this. I would like to also ask the coders if they where not intending to implement something like this if they would consider it however I understand if you decide not to as you are busy between Desky, Tdesk and all the indicators and ea’s you guys are coding and there may not be enough people that would use it to warrant it. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks everyone :hi: Spart You can use multiple instances of Desky with the pairs you want trading different lot sizes in your PairsToTrade input.

Author:	Josh [ Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:04 pm ]
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SteveHopwood » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:47 pm wrote: spart2509 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:25 pm wrote:Hi All Not sure if I am asking this in the right section but I’m after a way of placing trades with Desky with different lot sizes for different pairs kind of like ‘hard lot sizing’ except it would be ‘hard lot sizing per pair’ where you can enter a text string like AUDUSD/0.01,EURUSD/0.05 etc, I’m not sure if the coders will be adding something like this in the future I am aware they have added ‘differential lot sizing’ which as far as I gather (I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed) adjusts lot sizes so one pips currency value is the same across all pairs sort of like a ‘base currency value per pip’ setting, however this is not exactly what I was looking for as I change the lot sizes according to the trend, I use this to trade a higher pip value when the pair is on a strong long term trend and less when the pair is ranging and false starts that are hitting stop losses more frequently then use a higher lot size for the pair basket so it works out that the extra that is made on a good run covers all the stoploss hits on ranging and false starts. If anyone else is uses different lot sizes per pair I would love some advice I’m not sure if there is any other ea’s that can use TDesk signals to do this or if anyone a lot smarter than I am at code (code looks like some mysterious long lost form of written language to me so not hard) that can share there code and some instructions or any other advice on how I may accomplish this. I would like to also ask the coders if they where not intending to implement something like this if they would consider it however I understand if you decide not to as you are busy between Desky, Tdesk and all the indicators and ea’s you guys are coding and there may not be enough people that would use it to warrant it. Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks everyone :hi: Spart You can use multiple instances of Desky with the pairs you want trading different lot sizes in your PairsToTrade input. Thank you Steve. I have tried to have more instances on same platform but different charts without success - do you mean multiple instance by setting up different platforms or different charts?

Author:	SteveHopwood [ Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:50 pm ]
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Josh » Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:04 pm wrote: Thank you Steve. I have tried to have more instances on same platform but different charts without success - do you mean multiple instance by setting up different platforms or different charts? Charts. How you do this is your problem. I never involve myself with trying to help people set up their own platforms. That way lies even more insanity than I already posses. Feel free to continue to ask for help here. It just will not be me replying.

Author:	trader689 [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:07 am ]
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hey all One of my tdesk demos has not been as active as a similar one I am trying with slightly tweaked settings. Investigating, I looked into my experts tab and can see a whole bunch of messages along the lines of 'this pair is not offered by your broker' from desky - and that message seems to coincide with the point at which trades stopped being executed by desky - late May. (Incidentally, the other demo mentioned above, which is trading the full range of pairs without any issues, does not have any such messages in its experts tab.) The pairs are basically regular vanilla pairs, and are absolutely offered by the broker (global prime fwiw) - and had been taken previously on those pairs prior to the glut of messages. It just seems a bit out of the blue, unless I'm missing something. Does anyone know what the root cause of it may be? Does it needs historical data script run on it, or might something else be at play? thanks, trader tdesk pairs not offered msg.JPG

Author:	SteveHopwood [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:52 pm ]
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trader689 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:07 am wrote:hey all One of my tdesk demos has not been as active as a similar one I am trying with slightly tweaked settings. Investigating, I looked into my experts tab and can see a whole bunch of messages along the lines of 'this pair is not offered by your broker' from desky - and that message seems to coincide with the point at which trades stopped being executed by desky - late May. (Incidentally, the other demo mentioned above, which is trading the full range of pairs without any issues, does not have any such messages in its experts tab.) The pairs are basically regular vanilla pairs, and are absolutely offered by the broker (global prime fwiw) - and had been taken previously on those pairs prior to the glut of messages. It just seems a bit out of the blue, unless I'm missing something. Does anyone know what the root cause of it may be? Does it needs historical data script run on it, or might something else be at play? thanks, trader Try reinstalling the demo. Even better,remove it altogether and start again in a different location. Users occasionally enter pairs incorrectly, so Desky has code to check on this. He needs to know what are the latest Ask and Bid prices and gets them through a call to a function coded into Empty4's code - MarketInfo(symbol, MODE_ASK) etc. The function call will return zero if the pair does not exist and so Desky generates the error, which should also show up as an alert on the chart. I am speculating, but if your platform has some corruption then these MarketInfo calls might not be working properly, returning zero every time instead of the latest price. Reinstall is what I would try. Anyone else got any ideas?

Author:	trader689 [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:05 pm ]
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thanks Steve, I'll transfer the demo to another terminal. trader

Author:	spart2509 [ Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Hopelessly confused by TDesk or Desky? Ask here.
Josh » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:04 am wrote: Thank you Steve. I have tried to have more instances on same platform but different charts without success - do you mean multiple instance by setting up different platforms or different charts? Hi Josh I’m having the same problem you are steve did mention You can have multiple instances of Desky with the pairs you want trading different lot sizes in your PairsToTrade input but I can’t find a ‘PairsToTrade’ input in Desky only in TDesk not sure if I missed something there but I tried it in TDesk and use corresponding magic numbers in Desky buy but ran into the same problem you did I can run two copies of TDesk on one instance of Empty4 before an error pops up saying ‘TDesk is already running’ and only one copy of Desky another will just not load so I would assume only one copy on each instance of Empty4 that’s what I am going to be doing, I will go over the forums again maybe I missed something but for now I would suggest multiple instances of Empty4. Spart

Author:	luipogifx [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:23 am ]
Post subject:	Hopelessly confused by TDesk or Desky? Ask here.
I was able to run 2 Deskies in one terminal. I accidentally discovered it by loading another desky while the terminal's auto trading function is turned off. Try this step. 1. Load 1st desky as you normally do 2. Turn off terminal's auto trading 3. Load 2nd desky 4. Turn on terminal's auto trading My 2 deskies have different revisions, I'm not sure if it plays a part.

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