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Author:  gaheitman [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steve, this is insane

garyfritz wrote:
SWG123 wrote:It would facilitate decision making if the data could be presented in a more visually recognisable way but really it's not a big deal.
I tweaked the indicator to display the pairs in order of "rate of RSI change:"
SortRSI.gif
The numbers in brackets are the RSI change today and yesterday. So e.g. GBPJPY is at the top of the list, with its RSI jumping 7 since yesterday. But the day before it was flat. USDJPY jumped 6 today but DROPPED 4 the day before. So maybe EURCAD or GBPUSD are better candidates, since their RSI rose steadily for the last two days. (Or not. I'm not sure if this is useful information.) Their RSIs are also lower so it's probably earlier in the trend move. Does that help, SWG?
And I tweaked your tweak to add a visual display. I left the comment in there so people can compare, at least until we all agree on what would look nice.
rsi-trend.gif
The arrows are in the reverse order of the data displayed in the comment, indicating two days worth of "trend" in the RSI changes. It seemed more natural to do it that way. I used the following to determine what arrow to show (open for suggestions):

Code: Select all

string GetArrow(int delta) {

   if (delta > 5) return(CharToStr(233)); //up arrow
   if (delta > 1) return(CharToStr(236)); //45 degree up arrow
   if (delta >=-1) return(CharToStr(232)); // right arrow
   if(delta >=-5) return(CharToStr(238)); //45 degree down arrow
   return(CharToStr(234));                //down arrow
}
George
Author:  SteveHopwood [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

George, Gary, do not take what I am about to write as a criticism. The day I criticize you two, I shall ask my wife to blow out what passes for my brains.

Mind, I am a wimp so I would probably duck. :lol:

I think you are over-complicating what is essentially very simple. There is either a trend as measured by the Rsi (>55 or <45) or there isn't. My strategy trades when there is a trend in place.

Given the essential trend thingy, from there it seems daft to me to trade into if unless Rsi is heading in the right direction.

Having said that, I am not sure that it matters if Rsi is heading in the right direction when measured against the close of yesterday. Take a buy trade as an example. I will only take a buy if Rsi is > 55. My Waiting EA will only take the next buy if the market has broken through the next level of resistance, and so Rsi is heading in the right direction because the market has risen. So, does it actually matter if Rsi at the time of the trade is > the close yesterday? It is rising, or the market would not have broken the resistance.

Ok, so I am using (eg for a buy) the fact that Rsi must be rising higher than yesterday's close but this might be a spurious requirement based on the fact that this is still a young trading system invented by someone (me) with a lousy record for inventing trading systems. It could well turn out to be that all we need to do is trade in the direction of the trend when the market breaks through the next level of support/resistance. Not sure yet.

Also, I do not need to trade everything that moves. I have found that a few trades go a long way once the trend picks up pace. Today's Rsi being > yesterdays for a buy is another way of filtering out some pairs.

So, I respectfully (and I really do mean 'respectfully'; I am sure you understand that I will state when I do not mean 'respectfully') suggest that you stop confusing the issue with discussions about what happened to Rsi a couple of days ago.

:D
Author:  gaheitman [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

SteveHopwood wrote:George, Gary, do not take what I am about to write as a criticism. The day I criticize you two, I shall ask my wife to blow out what passes for my brains.

Mind, I am a wimp so I would probably duck. :lol:

I think you are over-complicating what is essentially very simple. There is either a trend as measured by the Rsi (>55 or <45) or there isn't. My strategy trades when there is a trend in place.

Given the essential trend thingy, from there it seems daft to me to trade into if unless Rsi is heading in the right direction.

Having said that, I am not sure that it matters if Rsi is heading in the right direction when measured against the close of yesterday. Take a buy trade as an example. I will only take a buy if Rsi is > 55. My Waiting EA will only take the next buy if the market has broken through the next level of resistance, and so Rsi is heading in the right direction because the market has risen. So, does it actually matter if Rsi at the time of the trade is > the close yesterday? It is rising, or the market would not have broken the resistance.

Ok, so I am using (eg for a buy) the fact that Rsi must be rising higher than yesterday's close but this might be a spurious requirement based on the fact that this is still a young trading system invented by someone (me) with a lousy record for inventing trading systems. It could well turn out to be that all we need to do is trade in the direction of the trend when the market breaks through the next level of support/resistance. Not sure yet.

Also, I do not need to trade everything that moves. I have found that a few trades go a long way once the trend picks up pace. Today's Rsi being > yesterdays for a buy is another way of filtering out some pairs.

So, I respectfully (and I really do mean 'respectfully'; I am sure you understand that I will state when I do not mean 'respectfully') suggest that you stop confusing the issue with discussions about what happened to Rsi a couple of days ago.

:D
Steve,

You are right, of course. For my part, I just wanted to draw pretty arrows on a chart. :D

George
Author:  garyfritz [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

And yours looked so much prettier than mine!! :lol:

But yes, Steve, point taken. Let's keep it simple.
Author:  SteveHopwood [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

gaheitman wrote:You are right, of course. For my part, I just wanted to draw pretty arrows on a chart. :D

George
Not stopping you, and of course one contributor wants my original indi beautifying. There must be potential for arrow drawing there. Not going to argue if you want to do a bit of prettifying along with adding a bit of TIG sauce.

:D
Author:  SWG123 [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

SteveHopwood wrote:
gaheitman wrote:You are right, of course. For my part, I just wanted to draw pretty arrows on a chart. :D

George
Not stopping you, and of course one contributor wants my original indi beautifying. There must be potential for arrow drawing there. Not going to argue if you want to do a bit of prettifying along with adding a bit of TIG sauce.

:D
I don't think it needs beautifying. Would be nice to be able to see it without squinting though! :D

I should add, that implies a defect in me, not the indi...
Author:  garyfritz [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

SWG123 wrote:I don't think it needs beautifying. Would be nice to be able to see it without squinting though! :D
George's improvement is perfect for that. You can specify the font, color, and SIZE. If you increase the font size you'll need to increase the ydelta parameter so the lines don't squish together.

Here's a slight mod to George's change. I removed the Comment()-based display, since George's text replaces it. I also added an "up/down" arrow for "long/short" to make it a bit more visual, fixed a minor error I introduced, added a few missing pairs from the TradePairs input, and added code to clean up George's text when you remove the indy.
Author:  SWG123 [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

garyfritz wrote:
SWG123 wrote:I don't think it needs beautifying. Would be nice to be able to see it without squinting though! :D
George's improvement is perfect for that. You can specify the font, color, and SIZE. If you increase the font size you'll need to increase the ydelta parameter so the lines don't squish together.

Here's a slight mod to George's change. I removed the Comment()-based display, since George's text replaces it. I also added an "up/down" arrow for "long/short" to make it a bit more visual, fixed a minor error I introduced, added a few missing pairs from the TradePairs input, and added code to clean up George's text when you remove the indy.
Wonderful George and Gary, thank you! Much easier to scan.
Author:  lucklogic [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

SWG123 wrote:
garyfritz wrote:
SWG123 wrote:I don't think it needs beautifying. Would be nice to be able to see it without squinting though! :D
George's improvement is perfect for that. You can specify the font, color, and SIZE. If you increase the font size you'll need to increase the ydelta parameter so the lines don't squish together.

Here's a slight mod to George's change. I removed the Comment()-based display, since George's text replaces it. I also added an "up/down" arrow for "long/short" to make it a bit more visual, fixed a minor error I introduced, added a few missing pairs from the TradePairs input, and added code to clean up George's text when you remove the indy.
Wonderful George and Gary, thank you! Much easier to scan.

Good work gentlemen, v.good work :roll:
Author:  gaheitman [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Scoobs and squalou: what a combo

garyfritz wrote:
SWG123 wrote:I don't think it needs beautifying. Would be nice to be able to see it without squinting though! :D
George's improvement is perfect for that. You can specify the font, color, and SIZE. If you increase the font size you'll need to increase the ydelta parameter so the lines don't squish together.

Here's a slight mod to George's change. I removed the Comment()-based display, since George's text replaces it. I also added an "up/down" arrow for "long/short" to make it a bit more visual, fixed a minor error I introduced, added a few missing pairs from the TradePairs input, and added code to clean up George's text when you remove the indy.
I'll see your changes and raise you an automated currency pair lookup.... :D

For those of you who want the option to trade anything your broker has to offer, but can't quite remember all the symbols, I added code to populate the list of currencies automatically if the parameter passed (TradePairs) is blank.

The request to add an alert to this thing should come pretty soon. :>

BTW, clever reuse of the GetArrow() procedure....

George
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