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Author:  Jollyroger [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Hi Tomasso:

I am having a problem with your All Trade Manager Shelly. It keeps alerting me to changes in Stop losses on orders that were closed by it previously. When I first detected the problem I removed the EA from all pairs on all profiles and I don't save any closed charts when they are deleted and yet the problem continues :?: . I haven't a clue as to what might be causing this to happen. Do you have any suggestions? I love this particular TM so I hope you can figure it out. Thanks!

Roger
Author:  milanese [ Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Jollyroger » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:42 pm wrote:Hi Tomasso:

I am having a problem with your All Trade Manager Shelly. It keeps alerting me to changes in Stop losses on orders that were closed by it previously. When I first detected the problem I removed the EA from all pairs on all profiles and I don't save any closed charts when they are deleted and yet the problem continues :?: . I haven't a clue as to what might be causing this to happen. Do you have any suggestions? I love this particular TM so I hope you can figure it out. Thanks!

Roger
Hi Roger,

you should the EA only set to one chart as it will manage all open trades, using more than one instance of the EA can cause problems.

Cheers :)

Tommaso
Author:  Jollyroger [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:15 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
milanese » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:16 pm wrote: Hi Roger,

you should the EA only set to one chart as it will manage all open trades, using more than one instance of the EA can cause problems.

Cheers :)

Tommaso

Hi Tommaso,

I must have been having a "senior moment". The problem is solved. I thought I had only set the EA on A single chart which I had earlier removed. I went through every chart I had before I contacted you looking for a duplicate of the EA. I didn't find any so I assumed their was a bug in the EA. WHAT I OVERLOOKED WAS THAT I HAD THE EA ON MY CSS CHART on which I had enlarged the indicator chart to cover my whole screen and the EA didn't show up when I checked my charts. I found it tonight just before I read your reply. Once again I thank you for taking your time to help solve a problem.

Roger

P.S. I think I should change my user name from "Jollyroger" to "Stupidroger".
Author:  Geges [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:43 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
I believe it should be "SmartRoger"

Thanks to you and M for this....


"I programmed this little AllPairTradeManager for assisting and managing manual- and too trades from
other EA's."
Author:  milanese [ Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Jollyroger » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:15 am wrote:
milanese » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:16 pm wrote: Hi Roger,

you should the EA only set to one chart as it will manage all open trades, using more than one instance of the EA can cause problems.

Cheers :)

Tommaso

Hi Tommaso,

I must have been having a "senior moment". The problem is solved. I thought I had only set the EA on A single chart which I had earlier removed. I went through every chart I had before I contacted you looking for a duplicate of the EA. I didn't find any so I assumed their was a bug in the EA. WHAT I OVERLOOKED WAS THAT I HAD THE EA ON MY CSS CHART on which I had enlarged the indicator chart to cover my whole screen and the EA didn't show up when I checked my charts. I found it tonight just before I read your reply. Once again I thank you for taking your time to help solve a problem.

Roger

P.S. I think I should change my user name from "Jollyroger" to "Stupidroger".
Glad you found the error :good:

Cheers :)

Tommaso
Author:  Over60 [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Hi Milanese,

Thanks for your advice by PM.

In reference to the “allpairManager” vers. 1.04 I will try to talk something about my Order-Management-Conception.
In my order-management-scenario concerning and focused e.g. to a single pair, there are always multiple orders already open and working (scalping, shortterm, swing and longterm) as also pending orders (by grid).
Concerning pendings, I´d like it to ignore, because they do not cause at first conflicts and that will be another issue to talk about.

So I used the setting by “manage ticket number” only for a single resp. an initial order.

In reference to manage a further pair, I tried to attach the Trade Manager (TM) a second one experimentally, but the TM runs into an endless loop, which was already described by Milanese.
A switch by true/false to define “trade only this pair” would probably not solve this Problem in general, because I assume, to trade other pairs by the a.m. scenario, that will not work basically, because the EA, quoting Milanese: “ … is a multipair trademanager, just set the AllPairTradeManager on one chart and it will manage all open trades”.

Not only from my point of view, the critical part by entering an order, be it initial or by pending is always the question, if the market will move as expected in a certain time.
So I use the TM only in the starting period after entering an Initial order.

Well, most of us trade not only a single pair, but different pairs with different conditions (with different Margin/Pip-value, Spreads, stop-loss-levels, volatility etc.) maybe also stacking (pyramizing) multiple orders per pair.
Therefore it makes no sense for me, to use a TM with identically settings across different pairs.
In consequence the question arise, if it is possible to code, that the TM would perform independent (without conflicts and malfunctions) with different settings in different pairs?

In addition the order-situation with many open orders will be sometimes confusing resp. messy and the controlling will be time consuming and needs concentration and attention, even by using stops.
BTW I´d like to mention, that it is confusing to distinguish, which orders (for example a single one, among others) are actually managed by the TM, if there is no comment in the terminal or any display in the chart.
Might be also helpful to colour the orderlines differently, which are managed by the TM.

After entering an order, if any order will be protected by BE, by profit-SL,TP or trailing, the order might be run and could be managed without a trade-manager manually, especially in the swing and longterm, where the stops are far away placed and protected outside of the current trading range.

I should also mention in addition the still ignored trailing procedure, but this would be a separate issue. Anyway such a feature did already mentioned by Gunter.

Sorry for the long run.

Your comments and experiences are welcome.

Trade well my friends
Over60
Author:  milanese [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Over60 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 am wrote:Hi Milanese,

...
Therefore it makes no sense for me, to use a TM with identically settings across different pairs.
In consequence the question arise, if it is possible to code, that the TM would perform independent (without conflicts and malfunctions) with different settings in different pairs?

..

I should also mention in addition the still ignored trailing procedure, but this would be a separate issue. Anyway such a feature did already mentioned by Gunter.

Sorry for the long run.

Your comments and experiences are welcome.

Trade well my friends
Over60
It would be possibile to create a trademanger that will manage only one pair yes, but too in this case it would be better to run for each pair a different Empty4 instance, as there is always a (little) risk that, if you use more than one EA on one Empty4 instance, unwished thingies could happen.
If there would be a certain request for a one pair trademanager I will think about coding one..

Cheers :)

Tommaso
Author:  Over60 [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:45 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Hi Milanese,

Thanks for the fast reply.
To run any EA on a local or mobile device always contains risks.
Be it a malfunction by the power supply or caused by an interrupted Internet-connection. But anyway we can consider the VPS- possibility, because it is a “must” for some users, who run robots 24h a day.
To use multiple instances might be cumbersome and resource-consuming and will not avoid certain a.m. malfunctions. Sorry, to use multiple instances does not match my requirement for a.m. reasons.

To avoid misunderstandings in advance. The EA should run independent on different pairs in one account providing the features resp. modules already incorporated.
In addition, I´m not shure what will happen, running the TM in one pair twice using two Charts with different settings and using different ticket numbers.

Well, I´d like to ask and would wait, what other users in the community will comment about the request and suggestion, before hitting any keyboard buttons.
Interested users please refer to my previous post.

BTW: I did trial the Trade Manager (TM) several times with different pairs using the setting by “manage ticket number” respectively only in one chart attached.
But the TM runs always into an endless Loop, permanently poping up.
Even a restart of Empty4 did not solve the problem.
So far as I did consider the instructions and settings, they should be correct.
Attached the settings to operate a single order, you will find that the parameter "manage all open trades" is still set to "true". Does it might be responsable for the malfunction?
Would you please check it, what might be wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Trade well my friends
Over60
Author:  milanese [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:54 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Over60 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:45 am wrote:Hi Milanese,

Thanks for the fast reply.
To run any EA on a local or mobile device always contains risks.
Be it a malfunction by the power supply or caused by an interrupted Internet-connection. But anyway we can consider the VPS- possibility, because it is a “must” for some users, who run robots 24h a day.
To use multiple instances might be cumbersome and resource-consuming and will not avoid certain a.m. malfunctions. Sorry, to use multiple instances does not match my requirement for a.m. reasons.

To avoid misunderstandings in advance. The EA should run independent on different pairs in one account providing the features resp. modules already incorporated.
In addition, I´m not shure what will happen, running the TM in one pair twice using two Charts with different settings and using different ticket numbers.

Well, I´d like to ask and would wait, what other users in the community will comment about the request and suggestion, before hitting any keyboard buttons.
Interested users please refer to my previous post.

BTW: I did trial the Trade Manager (TM) several times with different pairs using the setting by “manage ticket number” respectively only in one chart attached.
But the TM runs always into an endless Loop, permanently poping up.
Even a restart of Empty4 did not solve the problem.
So far as I did consider the instructions and settings, they should be correct.
Attached the settings to operate a single order, you will find that the parameter "manage all open trades" is still set to "true". Does it might be responsable for the malfunction?
Would you please check it, what might be wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Trade well my friends
Over60
Hi I see your problem, if you set ManageAllOpenTrades to true it overwrites the rest, you must set this false than ManageByTicketNumber should run without any problems, I tested this my self sometimes life and had never problems..

Cheers and have a nice weekend :)

Tommaso
Author:  Over60 [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  an other AllPairTradeManager
Hi Milanese,

Thanks a lot for your effort, Problem solved, what I almost already assumed.

Will try it first next week on a demo account.

Trade well my friend.
Over60
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