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Author:  nonlinear [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:31 pm ]
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Neo, I agree with you on values. My point was that your MA cross system appears to correspond to the peaks and valleys, so why not just use the peaks and valleys as entry points? Then you will avoid having to pick the right MA for each pair (and the lagging indicator on a lagging indicator issue). That said, a MA cross is much more mechanical than picking a peak, so there is benefit to that. Also, your MA cross system might work better with a TMAtrue that is NOT normalized for scaling purposes.
Author:  mobthehop [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

NT - do you sandwich your trading tf with one lower and one higher tf or is your trading tf the lowest of the three tfs?

Thanks for sharing your idea!

Mop
Author:  NeoTrader [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:28 am ]
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Hi mob,
mobthehop wrote:NT - do you sandwich your trading tf with one lower and one higher tf or is your trading tf the lowest of the three tfs?
My Trading TF is the lowest of the three TFs. The Signals shows earlier and clearer there and therefore I can trigger the Trades earlier.
mobthehop wrote:Thanks for sharing your idea!
You're welcome...

happy trading,

NeoTrader

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Author:  NeoTrader [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

hi nonlinear,
nonlinear wrote:Neo, I agree with you on values. My point was that your MA cross system appears to correspond to the peaks and valleys, so why not just use the peaks and valleys as entry points? Then you will avoid having to pick the right MA for each pair (and the lagging indicator on a lagging indicator issue). That said, a MA cross is much more mechanical than picking a peak, so there is benefit to that. Also, your MA cross system might work better with a TMAtrue that is NOT normalized for scaling purposes.
It correspond to the peaks and valleys...thats true....but this is not all it shows. You can also see the direction of the move we can trade...especially on the higher TFs where peaks and valleys are not build that often (from a intraday traders perspective)...as long as the TMA is above or below the MA we can only trade in this direction...if two TFs go in the same direction enter your trade...it is simple and easy to understand...only directional bias..no levels...
It is a little like the alignment of the pivots...only that this alignment occurs more often...

As of now I use the SMA21 on all pairs and it seems to be ok this way...I don't see that we need to have different MA's for different Pairs...why over complicate things?

And as you said the MA cross is more mechanical as picking a peak or valley...when do we consider a peak a peak (eg. if the level is over 0.6 or 0.9) or a valley a valley (if the level is below -0.6, -0.9).

I use the TMA only in True mode...everything else would be nonsense...

hope this helps to deepen the confusion.. ;)

happy trading,

NeoTrader

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Author:  bharatchopra [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

I agree with Neo Trader, with both the things.

1) We should use True Tma, so that we can backtest it manually.

2) We should should use slope of slope for right enty.


So I had mod the 10.2 Tma slope to true and for right entry, use the color coding. so even the strength is >.8 it will show when to exit and when to enter in other direction.

Color Coding

Lime : UP trend
Green : Up Trend Weak
Light Green : Force is on UP Side

Red : DN Trend
FireBrick : DN Trend Weak
HotPink : Force is on DN Side

PROBLEM IS SOLVED, NOW YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THIS INDICATOR
Bharat
Author:  harry45 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

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Please Play with It

Bharat[/quote]
Hi Bharat.Couldn`t open this ex4 file.What build it has been compiled.
Regards
Author:  bharatchopra [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:40 am ]
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Build 432
Author:  harry45 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

bharatchopra wrote:Build 432
Thanks,mine is 432 also,but it crashes terminal.
Regards
Author:  bharatchopra [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

IT WILL WORK NOT ON ANY Empty4 CRIME..
Author:  harry45 [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Slope LEVEL -- or DIRECTION?

bharatchopra wrote:Its working fine with me. I am posting it again
Nothing helps.Sorry
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