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Author:  mrelectron [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

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EURGBP just pinned low after a 3 level drop...check it on the 5M....
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This is from way way back (in pages not time. Page 63) . The thread moved pretty quickly the last couple of days. I'm just catching up.

Are these lines I have drawn on the piccy a reasonable approximation of the 3 level drop being referred to.
Author:  lhDT [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

Let me try to summarize a bit. This is a mix between CJ method & Steve Mauro. Used on M15.

1. Grab the asian range. Generally between 15 to 50 pips. This is the accumulation phase on low volumes.
2. Around London open, mark the asian hi/low range.
3. Wait for the asian breakout, no matter if it is to the upside or downside, you don't care :)
4. After 30 to 90min, mark the LOD/HOD (low of the day, high of the day).
5. Price will retrace a bit, now look for "M" or "W" patterns.
6. Enter short at the top, long at the bottom at the second retest. Look also for patterns like pin's, rrt, hanging man, etc in the M & W zones.
7. If all is ok you should be in profit.
8. Breakout traders are trapped in their breakout thing. They are now hoping the price will go at least at their entry price to exit at BE ... but price is now ranging, they are stuck ...
9. One hour after, the trend will resume and the price will be begin to drift in your direction forcing breakout trader to close their order, this will also accelerate the move.

Be careful between London & NY close, there should be a pullback if the range was big. This keeps a bit a the volume and money for the next day.
So, take your short position from the HOD and long position from the LOD after a M or W pattern. Stoploss should be above the highs or lows (give enough room to avoid getting trapped by broker spread widening)

If the price sky rocket to the upside or downside & you don't see a pullback nor a M or W after the breakout, too bad for that one. Go hunting on another pair =)
Author:  mrelectron [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

<snip>
Yesterdays move had 3 levels of rise....
see post by CJ at: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 294#p47294
<snip>


Sorry to keep dragging you back in time, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this stuff.
p0060-47294.png
Do the lines I have drawn on the piccy reflect the 3 levels of rise you are talking about ?
Author:  Reaper [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:08 pm ]
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allisonmagic wrote:I've read this entire thread over and over.. i still don't get it lol.. makes no sense to me. i guess i'll never learn this way, not smart enough :) looks nice though. good luck guys
Give it time, keep reading and applying these principles on different charts. You'll get there. Even if you just traded the M and W patterns and forget everything else you should be profitable. Keep looking for them and practicing..
Author:  Captain Jack [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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mrelectron wrote:<snip>
Yesterdays move had 3 levels of rise....
see post by CJ at: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 294#p47294
<snip>


Sorry to keep dragging you back in time, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this stuff.
p0060-47294.png
Do the lines I have drawn on the piccy reflect the 3 levels of rise you are talking about ?
This does....

CJ
Author:  Reaper [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

lhDT wrote:Let me try to summarize a bit. This is a mix between CJ method & Steve Mauro. Used on M15.

1. Grab the asian range. Generally between 15 to 50 pips. This is the accumulation phase on low volumes.
2. Around London open, mark the asian hi/low range.
3. Wait for the asian breakout, no matter if it is to the upside or downside, you don't care :)
4. After 30 to 90min, mark the LOD/HOD (low of the day, high of the day).
5. Price will retrace a bit, now look for "M" or "W" patterns.
6. Enter short at the top, long at the bottom at the second retest. Look also for patterns like pin's, rrt, hanging man, etc in the M & W zones.
7. If all is ok you should be in profit.
8. Breakout traders are trapped in their breakout thing. They are now hoping the price will go at least at their entry price to exit at BE ... but price is now ranging, they are stuck ...
9. One hour after, the trend will resume and the price will be begin to drift in your direction forcing breakout trader to close their order, this will also accelerate the move.

Be careful between London & NY close, there should be a pullback if the range was big. This keeps a bit a the volume and money for the next day.
So, take your short position from the HOD and long position from the LOD after a M or W pattern. Stoploss should be above the highs or lows (give enough room to avoid getting trapped by broker spread widening)

If the price sky rocket to the upside or downside & you don't see a pullback nor a M or W after the breakout, too bad for that one. Go hunting on another pair =)
The only thing I would say is dont expect a mid day (i.e. NY session) reveral. Its likely to happen but it doesnt always happen from what I see. Its probably better to wait for the M and W patterns at the HOD and LOD to form before entry. CJ can confirm better tho.
Author:  Captain Jack [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

mrelectron wrote:<snip>
Yesterdays move had 3 levels of rise....
see post by CJ at: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 294#p47294
<snip>


Sorry to keep dragging you back in time, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this stuff.
p0060-47294.png
Do the lines I have drawn on the piccy reflect the 3 levels of rise you are talking about ?
How about this on a higher time frame? Would these be possible outcomes at the top? A possible "M" pattern, or just back into a range with choppy action?

That's a level 3 high....basically 3 days or rising prices..... we could have a reversal this coming week...all possibilities that should be considered when you look at this pair...

We can watch this going forward....and trade it accordingly.

CJ
Author:  Captain Jack [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

Captain Jack wrote:
mrelectron wrote:<snip>
Yesterdays move had 3 levels of rise....
see post by CJ at: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 294#p47294
<snip>


Sorry to keep dragging you back in time, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this stuff.
p0060-47294.png
Do the lines I have drawn on the piccy reflect the 3 levels of rise you are talking about ?
How about this on a higher time frame? Would these be possible outcomes at the top? A possible "M" pattern, or just back into a range with choppy action?

That's a level 3 high....basically 3 days or rising prices..... we could have a reversal this coming week...all possibilities that should be considered when you look at this pair...

We can watch this going forward....and trade it accordingly.

CJ
How about this Lio? Looking familiar? Will they "dirty" it up a bit on the "LH" side like the did the front side with the sideways movement??

Keep an open mind and look at what they are telling us.

CJ
Author:  Captain Jack [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

lhDT wrote:Let me try to summarize a bit. This is a mix between CJ method & Steve Mauro. Used on M15.

1. Grab the asian range. Generally between 15 to 50 pips. This is the accumulation phase on low volumes.
2. Around London open, mark the asian hi/low range.
3. Wait for the asian breakout, no matter if it is to the upside or downside, you don't care :)
4. After 30 to 90min, mark the LOD/HOD (low of the day, high of the day).
5. Price will retrace a bit, now look for "M" or "W" patterns.
6. Enter short at the top, long at the bottom at the second retest. Look also for patterns like pin's, rrt, hanging man, etc in the M & W zones.
7. If all is ok you should be in profit.
8. Breakout traders are trapped in their breakout thing. They are now hoping the price will go at least at their entry price to exit at BE ... but price is now ranging, they are stuck ...
9. One hour after, the trend will resume and the price will be begin to drift in your direction forcing breakout trader to close their order, this will also accelerate the move.

Be careful between London & NY close, there should be a pullback if the range was big. This keeps a bit a the volume and money for the next day.
So, take your short position from the HOD and long position from the LOD after a M or W pattern. Stoploss should be above the highs or lows (give enough room to avoid getting trapped by broker spread widening)

If the price sky rocket to the upside or downside & you don't see a pullback nor a M or W after the breakout, too bad for that one. Go hunting on another pair =)
Well done Lio. Your write up might make it easier for others to see this on the 15M time frame. I'll add a couple things.

Ideal Asian session is 40-50 pips. This is usually dependent on the volatility of the pair. Some may range 25-30...but look for around 40 pip range.

After the range is set, the next thing they do is expand the range. This is what trips the breakout trades.

After this range expansion, price should move 25-50 pips above or below the Asian range, this is where the stop hunt occurs. The stop hunt takes out the breakout traders. This move to the stop hunt may happen over 3 candles or 3 "pushes". This is where some confusion comes in. The 3 push move to the stop hunt is different than the 3 pushes of the actual move itself.

Once the stop hunt is complete, look for the "W", "M" or straight away moves. These moves may have 3 levels up or down.

Trades over...look for another.

You can have a 3 day cycle of either rising or falling price. After this 3 day cycle completes, you may have a reversal into another 3 day cycle.

Many times, price will reverse in or near the NY session. This is the last session of the day and week. When price is rising, it must reverse and drop for them to take their profit. When price is falling, it must reverse and rise for them to take their profit.

These observations apply to the 15M time frame.

HOWEVER, these same patterns apply to higher time frames. Learn them and use them as a guide for price direction as well as longer term trades.

You might not want to set in front of the computer and wait for these trades to hit on the 15M time frame. That's fine. Look for them on the 1H, 4H and D1 time frames. They are there and you can take low maintenance, long term trades based on these patterns.

Take a look at the chart Lio used as an example....it's a 15M chart. Compare it to the one I add here.

A light should have just come on for you!

CJ
Author:  Captain Jack [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Captains Chest - Naked Trading & Other Stuff

swisscheese wrote:
Captain Jack wrote:
lhDT wrote:!

CJ
Wow, you Guys are Great.

Superb Reading and learning for the Weekend!

Cheers

Edi
Just think Edi, you could grab yourself a set of those Google glasses and catch up on all this as you glide down those ski slopes! Have a good weekend! ;)

CJ
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