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| Author: | rebyte2 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
Ok...first chart, you never waited for AO and RSI2/ STO5 to change, thus you are in too early. Your pending long is ok still. |
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| Author: | mjws00 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
The indicators are in the packages. That is where we all got them. Please ask these questions here: Sams Basic 10.4 Thread |
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| Author: | Ingot54 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
CJ - it looks like you may have ignored what the AO is doing. Are you going long/short before the colors change? |
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| Author: | rebyte2 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
All 4 are the same.. 2 x longs and 2 x shorts... are all too early. You need to place PENDING trades only where you have entered. Other wise, they might come back to your entries anyhow. cheers.... |
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| Author: | cjthomson [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
Mike - I presume you were responding to me? Thanks for the feedback. My initial thought is that i'm getting in too early as you say. With that in mind I am beginning to get excited about a couple more: GBPAUD - short EURNZD - short EURAUD - short I guess I need to withdraw from it a bit but how is that possible considering we do not know exactly when the turn will happen? My feeling is that if it gets into the zone then 'put pending order in'. Everyone here seems to suggest the system is so easy and that most are having incredible success in merely a week but for over two weeks now I seem to be working my a* off to eek out even a quarter %. I can't figure out what I'm missing? |
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| Author: | Ingot54 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
That's how I see it too, Rebyte2. Nothing wrong with the direction ... just a tad premature, and perhaps would have been better to wait for the AO to change color ... or place pending orders at slightly better strategic levels. Thanks for sharing your charts CJ - it reminds me to be alert for this too. What to do now ... you can decide to stay in and wait until price turns around - which it "should" because you have the trend correct. Or you could bail, take the current losses ... and set pending orders afresh. Your call - it's a hard one ... but hopefully the turning points won't be too far away. |
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| Author: | mjws00 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
AO is only for confirmation and exits. Do not wait for it for entries. Bob's last quote on this.:
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| Author: | mjws00 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
These are swing trades. So there is no rush. Remember RSI is just an oscillator, it is like watching a band trade, it will peg out and just stick there. Can be pegged for 8+ hours. Only way I know for sure to sense weakness is jump down to a 30min. It breaks early enough to give a clue. But if you see it break down there, then you can start looking for the entry at the pivot you are past. The strategy will work the way you are doing it, but it is far more painful. Another simple way to counteract early entries. PLAN FOR IT. Enter half on your first pending, but realize your tendency and add the other half when it goes one more level against you. Your total risk can be kept the same. Mike |
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| Author: | Ingot54 [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
Mike - thank you for digging that out for us. I admit my first reaction was to say what I said - that CJ hit the buy/sell button at the PP's ... and when the RSI2 was at the OB/OS levels ... without having the AO moving in favor of his trades. For myself, I would have waited and then entered on AO change. But not now. This is causing me to rethink the approach I have. I had forgotten to keep in mind that this works best using pending orders in the way you have outlined. Trading this way will allow me to get more sleep ... and quality sleep at that! Again - had CJ not asked the question and shared the charts, I would have had 'painful street' ahead! So thanks again to you both - for courage and wisdom. This is a great forum. |
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| Author: | Gertje [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10.4 A Complete System |
Don't worry, it will come. Monday I had a blast and yesterday nothing happened. Today I'm getting my ass kicked for entering prematurely, lesson learned. Stick to the rules and it will come. If I recall correctly, the primarily thought was to keep the account healthy by cutting down the losses and let the winners ride. Missing a trade once in a while isn't a big thing, loosing because I want to be part of every move IS a big thing. |
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