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Author:  PeterUK [ Wed May 04, 2016 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Holy Graily Bob 'n Grid

acostafulano,

There are various posts in this forum which you can try and search, which will explain how you can manage Empty4 efficiently and use less resources. Things that may affect are:
- number of EA's you run
- number of instances of Empty4 loaded
- number of charts you load up
- number of indicators you use on your charts, you don't need them loaded on charts when running on VPS
- is your VPS didicated or shared
- location of your VPS to broker exchange and etc

You could even try this cheap VPS (which I'm using for this demo) if you want more resources to forward test: http://my.nodevps.net/?cmd=cart&action=add&id=97 but use something like Beeks, CNS VPS or etc close to the exchange for live trading as low (to near zero) latency is preferable.

As I mentioned in my previous post Money/Risk management is important... you set them to your own tolerance level, my tolerance to risk will be much different to yours based on previous experience and change/development of managing my own psychological impact to mannaging loss.

When I refer to Money management: I'm referring to lot sizes which will either increase as the balance increases over time or stays constant (and there are other methods out there that are not implemented in HGB'nG)... you pick one that you are comfortable with.

When I refer to Risk Management: I'm referring to setting Stop losses, Take Profit targets, Break-even, and jump stops... how you use them is up to you... In this case I use a wide stop loss because I want to give HGB'nG room to work with but not let it blow my account completely and currently on demo the return is greater than the DD and losses due to hitting stop losses.

If you have too many options, just pick a starting point, test it to prove that the concept works, make a few changes at a time to see if you can improve it or not (and save backups), also give it time for things to validate/invalidate your current viewpoint/understanding... all this will take time probably weeks/months...

Hope this helps in your continual journey to automated trading :D

Regards,

Peter

acostafulano » 04 May 2016, 17:23 wrote:
My question is: Given the limited VPS space restrictions, would you recommend turning ON or OFF the MM functions in order to maximize results? I reckon that your good myfxbook results come from having this features ON the vast majority of the test’s run, correct?

Also, another question, you mention SL in one of your last posts, but both your latest setfiles have this at 0. Are you using some kind of external SL?

With so many options and so limited testing space, It’s very hard to make the call on what to test, and what not. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks Peter

Diego
Author:  Gertje [ Wed May 04, 2016 8:29 pm ]
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PeterUK » Wed May 04, 2016 7:47 pm wrote:
I haven't really analysed the data yet, just letting HGB'nG do it's thing... NZDUSD and XAUUSD seems to be dragging its heels since 27/4 but either SL will kill it eventually, or I could manually close them (which I won't at this time as it's a hands-off test), or wait till it reach overall profit and close all by itselt in profit.

I treat it like day-trading in terms of psychology and allow HGB'nG do the intraday trading at H1... I don't mind staying/waiting for the long haul and try not to feel the urge to interfere too much :D

I think Steve is the best person to ask about why trades are being closed the way they are... as he and a few others built this baby.
Thank you for answering.
It's helpfull in understanding how the results were achieved.
Author:  SteveHopwood [ Wed May 04, 2016 9:15 pm ]
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NewGuy pm'd Peter who pm'd me with a teensy display bloop. It does nothing to affect the way the bot works, so I am not uploading a fix. It affects the chart display for anyone using the single moving average filter, so well done to NewGuy for spotting it. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Line 779:
SM(" MA value: " + DoubleToStr(bFMaVal, Digits) + NL);

should be

SM(" MA value: " + DoubleToStr(sMaVal, Digits) + NL);

:xm:
Author:  TonkaTuff [ Wed May 04, 2016 11:23 pm ]
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I am not aware that I have made changes to those as they were OTTB when Steve was experimenting with SnL... it may have changed by accident with the defaults of the EA changes as I updated from v1w to v1z... will double check and compare preset files - I usually modify the defaults via the EA directly, and use the preset files to backup my settings and share. As this EA is in constant development... settings for preset files created from updated EA may not be exactly the same as the old... I make manual code and settings changes directly to the EA so that I can just press reset to ensure the correct EA settings is loaded/used whenever there's a bad Empty4 Crash and I forgot to backup the presets.

Thanks for bringing this up...

Regards,

Peter

P.S. As money & risk management is very important, I've reinstigated SL, BE and JS for v1z as it worked well in v1w... apologies for the bloop! Files attached below :
Thanks Peter, much appreciated.
Author:  mackaozy [ Thu May 05, 2016 1:05 am ]
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PeterUK » Wed May 04, 2016 10:29 am wrote:
TonkaTuff » 03 May 2016, 23:45 wrote:PeterUK,

Thanks for sharing and all of your insights, you've made learning this EA a lot easier.

In your current set file, "HGBnG v1z H1 Stop n Limits" you have turned off BreakEven and JumpingStop compared to your previous versions. How come?

Also, thanks Steve and all contributors. Much appreciated. I'll try to contribute by providing testing platforms in the coming weeks.

Thanks,
TT
I am not aware that I have made changes to those as they were OTTB when Steve was experimenting with SnL... it may have changed by accident with the defaults of the EA changes as I updated from v1w to v1z... will double check and compare preset files - I usually modify the defaults via the EA directly, and use the preset files to backup my settings and share. As this EA is in constant development... settings for preset files created from updated EA may not be exactly the same as the old... I make manual code and settings changes directly to the EA so that I can just press reset to ensure the correct EA settings is loaded/used whenever there's a bad Empty4 Crash and I forgot to backup the presets.

Thanks for bringing this up...

Regards,

Peter


P.S. As money & risk management is very important, I've reinstigated SL, BE and JS for v1z as it worked well in v1w... apologies for the bloop! Files attached below :
HI Peter,

I have been lurking for a while on this topic. I have just come across your myfxbook & see there have been various changes along the way. Results are truly amazing. :D

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/PQLTrad ... 1z/1614908

May I ask if your settings above are the settings you used on your mfxbook account?

Cheers!
Author:  rollbahn [ Thu May 05, 2016 1:29 am ]
Post subject:  Holy Graily Bob 'n Grid

Hi Peter,

Firstly I should say a huge thanks to Steve and everyone here. I had never heard of this place but came across it via a random Google search one day a couple of weeks ago and what a find!

I have been testing out things with your basic settings and tweaking things a little with Mon/Fri timing and using SAPBTM to take a basket profit at 2% of equity - currently around $30. I have SAPBTM set to TP 3 times in a day and wait 30 minutes between starting again.

I am demoing with $1600 at 1:50 on GP and I am also using the $1500 dollop etc so .01 lots. I know I am the type who doesn't like staring at DD for too long and with the highest volitility happening outside business hours here in Australia (mostly while I am asleep or with family) I chose to get in and out quickly and bank the profits.

So far it is working very well even with the GBP/JPY going directly against the big HGI buy arrow yesterday. Went to bed with things at -$150 and woke up with my $30 banked for another 2% thanks to the JPY reversals during the US session. I checked the charts and could see some S&R close by and felt comfortable leaving it to work itself out.

2% compounded can turn in to a nice little result if I am patient so that is my aim once I feel comfortable to go live with it. I have to work out my SL setup as I am running with nothing at the moment, which is fine in demo as I work things out but I may use 400 pips to save disaster once live.

So thank you for your ideas Peter - it gave me a good starting point and hopefully things continue going well.

BTW I am still using version 1w from one of your older posts but I notice you have moved to 1z - is there any isue staying with 1w? I see Steve had posted a few code fixes but I wasn't sure if there were any showstoppers that are going to bite me at the wrong time in 1w.

Thanks
Jason
Author:  PeterUK [ Thu May 05, 2016 5:52 am ]
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mackoazy,

The settings supplied with SL@400 reinstated using HGB'nG v1w (including BE and JS) then recently v1z (excluding BE and JS).

Regards,

Peter
mackaozy » 05 May 2016, 01:05 wrote:
HI Peter,

I have been lurking for a while on this topic. I have just come across your myfxbook & see there have been various changes along the way. Results are truly amazing. :D

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/PQLTrad ... 1z/1614908

May I ask if your settings above are the settings you used on your mfxbook account?

Cheers!
Author:  PeterUK [ Thu May 05, 2016 6:07 am ]
Post subject:  Holy Graily Bob 'n Grid

rollbahn » 05 May 2016, 01:29 wrote: BTW I am still using version 1w from one of your older posts but I notice you have moved to 1z - is there any isue staying with 1w? I see Steve had posted a few code fixes but I wasn't sure if there were any showstoppers that are going to bite me at the wrong time in 1w.

Thanks
Jason
Just did a kdiff (nice little program you can download for free http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net/)...

Mostly additions/improvements to hedging and offsetting code, update if you want to try/use hedging settings...

Other than that, some minor code updates:

Line 2178 change: return(0); to return(false);

and Line 768: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 79#p139964

Peter
Author:  rollbahn [ Thu May 05, 2016 6:46 am ]
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Thanks Peter will check that out now. I use DiffMerge to check on set file changes but hadn't thought to use it for EA's...silly me.

I don't use offsetting (trying to stick wiht what's working for now) but the hedging updates would be worthwhile it seems.

Appreciate the help.

Jason
Author:  mackaozy [ Thu May 05, 2016 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Holy Graily Bob 'n Grid

PeterUK » Thu May 05, 2016 6:52 am wrote:mackoazy,

The settings supplied with SL@400 reinstated using HGB'nG v1w (including BE and JS) then recently v1z (excluding BE and JS).

Regards,

Peter
Thanks Peter!
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