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Author:  musky [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:38 pm ]
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I'm running the 6.2 Scooby and the Marilyn Monroe 2.8 default in my signature.
Author:  idempotent [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:27 pm ]
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musky wrote:I'm running the 6.2 Scooby and the Marilyn Monroe 2.8 default in my signature.
Musky, pardon my ignorance, but where are these EAs?
Author:  cuzgeorge [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:55 pm ]
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musky wrote:I'm running the 6.2 Scooby and the Marilyn Monroe 2.8 default in my signature.
Thanks musky, following those demos as i have'nt set those up.

I left Scooby's old 5.2g after they would all eventually perform a hara-kiri. Scoobs original pdf stated 0.01 lots size for each 10k if i remember correctly and although at this ratio, you shouldnt ever bomb an account, it becomes just too slow if the DD start to set in and waiting for that turn can take months if not years. I really believe Scoobs on the ratio idea especially if you look at whats just happened with the JPY pairs. Moved on to find a better performing EA. FR is doing well and currently my two demos are both in DD, with one worse than the other, but waiting it out to see how it all unfolds. Ive allowed 4 recovery levels and no more trading after that. Then we wait for the turn.

Monroe is on my hit-list, but only time to understand the EA is what i dont have right now, so thansk for posting. Was waiting to follow a demo ro two on MArilyn from Phil_Trade and niepce , here; http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... &start=150. Page 16 i think, correct me if i'm wrong please and i'll edit this post or follow the rest of the pages to see which is the last update.

regards and good luck,
cuz
Author:  musky [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:07 pm ]
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Sorry I meant scooby 6.1c http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... f=35&t=507

2.8 Marilyn is in this thread somewhere. http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... f=5&t=1448
Author:  musky [ Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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sorry to the couple folks following the myfxbook page in my sig, i made the mistake of adding another ea to it and it pretty much wiped it out the .MetaNeural SuperDash . I will restart one as I had it .
Author:  garyfritz [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:48 am ]
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Sorry SB, I'm traveling and didn't see your post.
sportbuf3 wrote:
garyfritz wrote:Where did you see that? I'm wondering if possibly you misunderstood the post. You wouldn't be the first to post an EA without extensive live testing.
Gary - Here is the link that I mentioned with rules for posting EAs. I may have misunderstood something in the post, but being a newbie I would rather error on the side that would not give me a bad name. http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... f=36&t=519
Aha. Those are not general rules for ANY EA that gets posted. Steve and virococca were proposing an "EA Results" thread, to be populated only with "deep analyzed" EA results. THOSE posts were supposed to be backed up with some live-account testing.

But that's not a general requirement for any EA that gets posted to the boards. Post away, and if Steve barks at you (which I doubt), tell him "Back off, Gary said it was OK." :lol:
I was so excited and opened a live account with $10k of my savings. For 2 days profits soared and I was ready to resign from my job. On the 3rd day of live trading I hear machine gun sounds coming from the alerts in my account. There was a glitch that had never happened in demo trading where on a double cross it was opening and closing orders (buy..close...buy...close) before I could figure out what was happening and disable live trading, my account was eat with commissions from machine gun trades and I had a balance of $4.36.
OUCH. My condolences. That kind of "whoopsie" is exactly why I don't generally trust computers with my money. I'll let them calculate all the trades, do the grunt work of figuring out where stops are &etc, but I really prefer to let my brain and fingers do the final approval. It means I can't trade systems that require constant attention, or that have to run during the London session or whatever, but it also means my account doesn't get vaporized by a coding error.
Author:  cuzgeorge [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:26 am ]
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Hi All,
quick update, i have dropped Bobs biggest Balls and also the 10.3 Scalper demos. I havent been able to get them to successfully trade, and only mention here is that they didnt lose or make a great deal. They both kept their balances but no growth. Best i could do.

replaced them with Macarena v2, and Take It Easy v3 from JL.
thanks all,
will update the rest and post here too.
regards
cuz
Author:  idempotent [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:23 pm ]
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Thanks cuzgeorge. This thread might be quiet, but we're listening. Appreciated.
Author:  cuzgeorge [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:56 pm ]
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idempotent wrote:Thanks cuzgeorge. This thread might be quiet, but we're listening. Appreciated.
:) ,
Thanks for the post, Ive been battling the problem with the ava demos, but i think its working out okay now.
Still to update a few, just finishing with FR 10.01 now also, Still a few more to get to.
regards,
cuz

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Author:  cuzgeorge [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:16 pm ]
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Hi all, :D hope everyone is having a good easter break and enjoying time with their families.

Heres an update with what's in, and whats out!

I'm still having the same problem i had a few months back with ava crim, the problem re-appeared when they updated their servers again. They have not published the servers address to my fxbook correctly, or not at all, and therefore the demos cant read the info off avas' servers. This has caused me to use the 'publisher' method from with-in Empty4 which does the same but is 'cluncky' and the only negative is that we cant get to see the 'comments' tab. The good side is we have'nt lost the history of the demos, some going back for well-over a year now.

All new demos are working correctly with new crims.

I have stopped demoing the 10.2 of Al3xx autotrader. It was doing okay, but not any better than MultiBob so was not necessary to keep testing as i cannot play with the code there.

Bobs Bot is also toned down with me testing, or comparing positions taken with other EA's.

Bobs BBE also had problems getting into profit here. Same story as most of the 10.2 EA's, lots of small profits with one or two big losses that take it all back, sometimes not all of it, but far too little growth to carry on there.

Sounds like i'm picking on Bob tonight, so last one is the GPBCAD 1m scalper. No luck there.

Daybreak is also history for me. I honestly compared this one to Balls-to-the-Wall. Balls was a much better trader. maybe it was the execution of the trades, but both made sense as far as the logic went, i just couldnt get consistancy here also.


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Trendy Gary I lost one of the PC's that housed the original Trendy Gary EA that was doing so well, so have restarted on another PC while i boot up the new one and get some demos ready for it. TG is starting to make up for the losses from before, when the indi was attached, and now closing in on leveling the account. I have not had the misfortune of seeing TG blow an account , but i would caution against using too many charts or a lot size that is too high. I'm pushing to what i feel is max in my demos, so take that as a starting point when making your own setup. Also, choosing equal correlated charts of pairs that usually trade similarly, like 3 that go north when 3 that go south. This way we limit our risk with the TG EA.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ied/394902
In this one i have included an FPI trade script similar to what LocustFund was using against the dark crim to win with the swap fees at minimal risk, and seems to be helping the demo along. I will stop this once once i close the last two remaining losing positions from here, and then try to get the demo linked below to break-even before i remove it from there too. The losses here are from when the indi was attached and trying to make up on its own steam, and doing so, but going to try and help along with the FPI.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... jan/455484

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Bobs BotV1 Guving up on this one, but threw TG into the mix from March 19th to compare trades taken. Bobs was too slwo and at a slight loss for many months, so thats why giving up. TG has caused the account to grow, but all the DD here is because of TG also. No indi as discussed in the thread, so buys only. Looking to play with what pairs to use here.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... -20/508355

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The Beast Steves locking of the Beast thread is no surprise. It will be there forever and has served its purpose. At the time, there was nothing like the Beast around and it certainly influenced myself, and others, in a huge way. As always, grid and martingale systems will always be very profitable , but need to be controlled as they can swing against us very quickly, and easily.
The only demo i still have for the Beast is RIbelo's version that was tweaked by snoopiers snippet by JLGarcia linked below.
Once the change was implemented, it seems to be far more stable and has kept the dd down considerably. Thank you Pippo for the eagle-eye pick-up and keeping with the testing. Steve, JL, snoopier, Macman and RIbelo for the EA.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ast/455508

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Xmeters are high on the agenda and great progress made here. Important point to note and thanks to babalu for bringing the problem he had up. I have not experienced this problem, so wont comment on it, but it does seem that Cowboy IBFX was having 'issues' this last week or two. Dont know if this was exclusively to xmeter, but i doubt it.
To quote JL;
jlcgarcia wrote: I have taken a look at the code of the !xMeter Speed v5 and there will not be this problem because I used there another indicator for the gridspace (not precisely ATR, George), but I have not used this indicator for the (R)Evolution demo or mq4 posted here. I must say that the (R)Evolution is still a work in progress.

The versions that are free of this problem are the Speed v5, NoLimits and the Evo1. The rest of the versions (including classic, (R)Evolution and fp) can have this risk.
I have started several new demos icluding the mq4 version released by JL, i have dabbled with the code there and made some changes, might be for the better, we'll see in a month or two. All on GP crim with fluctuating spreads and one or two on fixed spread crims. WIll keep everyone posted when i see something worth noting.
What i can say is the second set of EA's that JL mentions above " The rest of the versions (including classic, (R)Evolution and fp) can have this risk," are more prone to stop trading when using the indis. Using both stoch and RSX set to true, seems to really, really slow the trading down. Still experimenting with this, but now we know there is a different way these xmeters are calculating where, and when to trade.

We also learnt that trading some of these versions with a very low sum of funds will blow them. AGT has tested his demos with 1k, or 2k and 2,5k and he ran into trouble with some of them. I have used this info to limit my maxinitial setting (where everything starts) to 0.5 for the larger accounts like the 50k and 100k ones, but at this level, we should see a tapering off of the growth. The point i'm trying to find, is where it becomes safe to leave a setting and go on holiday. :) Almost there.

My demos have also showen me that the hedge options method doesnt always work so nicely. Maybe its me not understanding the options that well, but i'm giving up on hedge and trying follow options at various points.

NoLimits 3.4 has definately got advantages with the co-operative trading. I like it a lot but the results are not showing properly yet through the demos. need some more demo time to work through and show us what it can do.

We've also seen that using no Martingale will not work for these EA's and i welcome the controlled use of this method together with the grid settings, but really only for a recovery method. i'm very happy to see JL has automated these options and am testing them as my main focus for xmeter right now. Jl being as conservative as he can be, must have some card up his sleeve for with his coding for this setting. The manual test is running on the older xmeters for comparing.

Weve also seen the probability of a direct L1 probability jump when comparing to the older xmeters and Jl's lookbackbar auto option must be working well so far. For coders who understand how this works, keep you ears to the ground with JL. DC is also seriously finding the trends much better off our charts and its great to follow these guys.

Stopped out some of the xmeter 'H-32' ( in the demos name at the end that tells me what PC the demo is running on) that couldnt be saved from the system failure and starting the new H-32 with new, or salvageable demos.

Pointless to link to any new xmeter demos as there are many and not much to look back on yet. If you like to join me on a ride, heres a fp9 demo thats seriously testing my patience and looking to triple the account in one series that went to L16. Thanks to the GBP and i think we going north for quite some time still.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... d-9/508582

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Older Xmeters ,I managed to identify some of the older xmeter EA's i have, including the old cuzbot, Fury and v2.2.2 that Fate, MarcelloT are testing, and started new demos with them using what we've learnt so far. This one one of them that blew with AGT's demo. Also included some of JL's add-ons like hedgeing and follow to them, to see if they are any good with what we know now.
Heres the Fury demos;
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... s-i/527427
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... -my/507533
V2.2.2 also tested by Marcellot and agt, EA code is slight modded by me to avoid an error on original and set file is mine hard coded;
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... lot/508363
and cuzbot with add ons for testing, still playing here; probably last attempt here.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... s-i/508400
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Speed v5
This EA is coming to life and starting to show a lot of decent resluts with lowish DD. Still learning more about this EA but on my live list already. Heres a demo that has shown nice growth, but a little high on the DD. There are more demos, just pointing one out here,

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ava/508673

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Macarena seems to be doing very well and going to keep at this one. Added a few more charts after it started off well and the new charts also showing similar results on GP;
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ots/457913
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LionKingv3 is not doing well after 5 demos. Going to stop testing here so leaving demos for a while for Jl to check up on results and make his decision what he wants to do with it.

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MasterMind Started this on 4 main charts at 15M TF. Lets see how this one does.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... 1-4/508365

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Amapola v1

Started this on 29th March with 1hr tabs as per post one. Some small losses in the beginning are worrying. You wouldnt expect that from a 1hr chart EA.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ava/508382

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TakeItEasy v3
Also a new demo here running 7 30M charts. Too soon to tell anything, but in 10 days, only losses so going to start messing around with the TF's of the charts. Soemthing tells me this one should work. WOuld normally just drop this, based on results, but i'm curious, maybe its the way it came about that intrigues me.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ted/508389

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Sunlight
Sunlight v2 seems to be doing okay and GP broker at 1:100 also seems fine. Little DD and nice smooth growth so far. Seems to be a good EA, lets see in the long run, and if we get to play with any of the settings.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... -24/522379

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GdayMK2 has not performed very well and best i could do with my settings is get it to stay afloat, no nett gain or loss, so added an older xmeter 2.3.3 to watch how they trade. Interesting to see how they take positions opposite to each other and how they play out. Different magics of-course andnow the account has grown a little , but so has the DD. Just watching this one for interests sake.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... for/395163

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Gary Fritz's script
Here i'm trying to open using Gary's script posted in a now famously banned thread, where the idea is to get all the positions closed by MPTM similar to TrengyGary method with no SL or TP. Theory is that what comes up must come down, so we wait. But waiting is all we seem to do now, and i'm getting impatient and going to try find a way to manually make up for the loss so far. Lets see if we get it right with the indi tools we have.
Also using Banzak's BearsnBulls here for simulating manual trades and for comparing. Its easier to see whats going on when you can compare two methods.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ing/508413

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Poolers v6c is meandering with his last version, so waiting for Pooler to complete his next version. I think he is onto something good here.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... 8th/394895

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Crossfader
This 6.2.4 version is running with no problems for me. The EA looks like it has thrown a hefty punch right now and on 0.01 lot size, i am in $81 loss with about 20 positions open. Good , steady growth so far so going to carry on with this demo as is.
Looking to add some of the newer EA's but need to understand whats going on there first. Thanks AGT for helping me catch up. I also saw from one of your demos that my expired demo on crossfader 5SE had the same trades, and survived the USDJPY onslaught. Good to see that v5 still kicking ass on AGT's demo.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ep-/439168

Heres the semi automatic version. Please dont ask what or how i set up, i really cant remember what i did here. i lost me notes here too, but damn, it would be one that does so well. 50k to 56k in one month. Seriously, its OOTB i think on two charts. very low DD at end of month, but little scare in the middle.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... n-m/527521

Need to get more involved here, theres definately smoke, and when theres smoke, theres fire. Keep it up VM and friends.
A special thanks to AGT who's helping me get caught up here.


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Banzaks Bears n Bulls v1.04a
No change here, but noticed some positions closed with TP, but profit was very low, not sure if this is related to the big DD this EA recovered from, but growth is slow now, so checked code and dont want to play with it incase i mess this up. Banzak is doing very well with his demo, i just cant emulate with his set file here.
Waiting to see what Banzak does with his EA. Only forward testing here.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... otb/508540

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MultiBob 1.2.14
No changes, just started to close out some winners before they go bad. Seems to be the norm here that good positions change, so closing out and hoping the losers turn to become winners. STill looks like 10.2 is the better option to trade MultiBob on. Waiting to see when Paul retro-fits his EA into 10.4. Quite sure he has already, but waiting to see when he releases. Must be testing right now.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... nly/508546

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... a-8/508655

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10.4 Multi Trader By Andy Long
Had some difficulty setting this one up and ended up editiing all // references to 'log' , this allowed the EA to compile correctly with the following settings.
Rsi is using 90/10 settings and only on 0.1 pips. Test going okay so far, not anything to scream about yet, but MPTM has been doing management for me here trying to do the BE and JS thingy. This time going to let the EA take me out at MSR2. UI is really a magical work of art.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... -01/508588

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DC's Forex Robot 10.02
Okay guys, this is a serious change from the older FR's. Dc has done a great job of getting FR to find the direction and TP with out having to go into a major recovery series. I have two demos running here and none have lost so far since starting them. In the thread i see there are some having difficulty with their EA's, i cant say why, but i can only assume if you are having difficulty with starting-up the Empty4 terminal, then its time to re-load the terminal and starting fresh. FR has always needed history and this 10.02 is no deifferent. It seems we all have different results trying to get the history loaded. Personally, i have given up on scripts that seem to cause more errors in my terminals, so i cannot say about DC's new method, as i havent tried it, but i do each chart manually that FR pops up saying it need history. the oild way, by zooming in and out in each time frame for each pair. Takes about 20 minutes to do , but with a few restarts along the way, the pop ups stop and FR gets on with business.
This is my next live account EA. Two versions of set files below, one is OOTB and the other allows upto L4 for recovery, which doesnt seem necessary so far, and PLfactor of 0.30 instead of 0.25, and only 8 pairs allowed instead of the default 28. Trying to see if we get the problem with the JPY pairs again, but with the settings i see here, we should rather get stopped out 'IF', FR takes the wrong direction.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... -l4/520120

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... otb/508338

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2Sides EA
Received this EA some time ago and lost a very good demo from the crashed PC, but started up here again with only the Scalper version on EURUSD1M and the GBPUSD version sent by Harry45 with set files. DD is getting larger than the profit so far, but running on to see what happens with this EA at a later stage. No interfering here.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ted/508658

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Bunker's BigMac

Not much growth here over the last few weeks. Ive been slow to catchup here but hope to do so over this week end. Huge potential here and great to see the big guns hanging out with Bunker. This one has to make it. We'll find a way for sure. The testing demos going on here are phenominal. really good to see the forum get behind the guys here and test away. Really good to see.
Heres my demos so far before updating to v0.16 today. WIll fill in details in gen tab when decided which demo, tests what. so far , neither up or down and cant add anything for the big guns yet.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... gms/508664
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... g-1/527517
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... lse/527516
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ig1/527515
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... lse/527509
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... rom/527508

Big Mac 0.82 with MPTM thrown in;

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... for/508680

Big Mac 0.8 renexxx with MPTM
Renexxx's version seems to get in nicely but my closing method is wrong with MPTM and as you can see the growth is there but the DD is not good. changing the MPTM method here to 30/15/30 with no SL's again, but going to have to make a choice for SL soon if the trend doesnt chaNGE.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ptm/527519

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MetaNeural SuperDash by FalseDave
Thsi one looks great. Trades very quick , in and out. From what i understand, Dave is working, tweaking at a newer version that might be a bit slower to trade. GOing to keep this one running and review settings in a while, not yet. Neither up or down yet, so just waiting to gather some history info. Great work Dave.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... ave/511496

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Marilyn Monroe, by Phil and Niepce
Only got one demo running so far, but definately going to add a few more with some differences to see what we can get going here. I added MPTM here to do the BE and JS thingy, and too soon to tell if it will work, but it look s like i made a mistake doing this, as it wont help the over-all strategy of what MM is trying to do. I liken this to the xmeters where its not a good idea to manually close out the winners and just hope the losers turn to be profitable.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cuzgeor ... pce/511510

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Thats where i'm at for now. Will be adding many more demos soon as i have new PC 's with much more power, so keep a look out for multiple demos on certain EA's.

TO end off i'd like to answer a question i get a lot.
WHich EA's are my best, which are the most profitable.

1--top one is online right now, xmeter fp9. The demo i linked above in the xmeter section for anyone to come on a ride with me if you like.

2-- Balls to the wall. Took me to great heights fast, and then slowly tapered off.

3-- Trendy Gary, the demo i lost with the crashed PC. Never lost a trade except for one that cost me a few cents due to swap fees. WHen the PC crashed, TG was in DD with GBP positions. They were never closed off, but looking at where the GBPUSD went, i can safely say that TG would have closed them all in profit.

4-- xMeter Fury,

5-- xMeter 2.1 and the Cuzbot.

As my favourite, I must admit i am 'fixated' with JL's version of xmeter and hope to come back with a winner for everyone here. Cant pick one yet, but Evo1 looks like a serious contender, especially the US set file version. Safe and slowish. It s just not a trader for small accounts especially with a 1:50 ratio. Need big bucks like 15k, maybe more as i'm guessing this, if you're in the states at 1:50, just a guess .One can get away with the 5-10k on a normal 1:200 or 1:400 normal Empty4 account where you can hedge. We'll see, demo test only for now and trade safe.

Wishing all the happiest of Easter breaks,
and happy pipping until the next monster post, :D
cuz

PPPS: Oh and my favourite picture of AGT and myself - Thanks KevinT
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