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| Author: | Aus67 [ Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:31 pm ] |
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Hi All First time posting here after reading a lot of great threads!! Impressive forum and some great contributions!! Steve is doing some impressive work and so too any other coders that the have ability to do what Steve is doing! Okay, so reading through a lot of the forums I would like to put an idea forward and see what the experienced people think. Has anyone thought about using a similar concept to the 'sure-fire' hedging EA ...((please read on before you discard this thread!!)) I agree that the death trade of that system is very real...but I have been playing with the concept but only employing it at very specific market conditions...put simply. I look for a channel of consolidation to form before the market opens and then put two horizontal lines at the top and bottom of this channel...please see the attached image to see what I mean. If market is zooming I don't trade...I wait for the consolidation to break out If price breaks above the channel I go long with a .01 with TP 30, SL60 ....if price then turns around and goes the other way (as Empty4 is designed to do! I am in Australia so it is difficult to sit up into the wee hours placing the trades manally, so I was hoping that a coder (or 'the coder') could automate this concept using the horizontal lines +spread or a comfort zone to enter the trades. Is this as clear as mud? I use the 5 min chart and have found that in our market (aus and japan) the yen crosses work well and often the GBPUSD. In the attachment you will see where I entered short (blue squiggle) after price broke below....the market is setting up this morning in Australia in a another channel...lets see what happens Anyway thats about it! Oh forgot to mention that if the consolidation channel is only 20pips for example, that is when you would go short...and you can either have the SL for the first trade around here...or give it some room with a larger SL Happy Pipping!!!! |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
Ok, a couple of thingies here:
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| Author: | Aus67 [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
Hi Steve Thanks for the reply and advice! trying to think like a coder, may prove a little difficult for me. Anyone who can look at this: if(xi == || ++,, = holycrap!!) and knows that it means something, has a part of the brain that I missed out on! The Attached Chart in post one. On my first post chart there are some residual indicators that I should have removed, they were from days gone by and make the chart look sexy, but don't really influence the trading, they are more of PITA actually. My apologies for that! But I will explain them at the bottom and include the mq4 files, maybe someone can see a benefit to using them! THE STRATEGY Any 5m chart but Yen crosses work well here in Australia...because its the morning!! 1. THE MANUAL PART * With your Mark 1 eyeball, find some consolidation of price (or a swing high and low) between the markets!! Between US and Japan and Japan and London (the green circles). I was told once that this is when the sharks are out manipulating prices to hit stops, don't know how true it is, but anyway there is usually a swing high and low formed on some charts that acts as a reference point for our trading. * Manually place a horizontal line (or trendline) at the top and bottom of price action (yellow lines on the attached chart) 2. The Automated part (hopefully) When the EA is turned on, these two lines become two pending orders of the same lot size (ie. 0.01) One pending order is to go long at the top line and one to go short at the bottom line. (+spreads) Now we wait and see which way price will move. Trade1. (at 2. on chart) Trade1 entered short because price broke down, lot size 0.01 (SL 60 TP 30) What might happen. Take Profit hit - Close trade , Go home, buy the wife some flowers! - The pending long trade is automatically cancelled (somehow) OCO if TP hit? or Price moves in against us and - if the channel (between the two lines) is smaller than SL of trade 1. then we enter a long position at (3. on the chart) with lot size 0.03 (SL60 tp 30) and carry the loosing short trade. - if the channel is bigger than trade1 SL, then accept the loss and move on! - The new long trade (3.) will be bigger lot size of 0.03 as above. (or maybe have the option to start the pattern again, just a thought for different trading styles!) Now wait. What might Happen Take Profit hit - Close trade, take the misses to dinner! (as what happened on the chart) or Price now falls again (the big blue arrow) - Another trade is entered short if price breaks through bottom line of channel again (at 4.) lot size 0.09 SL60 and TP 30 (now crawl under the desk and hang on) 3. THE Logic: A Currency with a big trading range is going to move somewhere, just ride with it. Choose a spot to jump on initially (I use the queit time between the markets) However, Play it smart, if the 3rd trade is a looser, get off....Don't let ball size come before brain size! In saying that, maybe the EA could include several new trade sizes for those with less risk adversion. ---------- I have included an EA (TrendlineBreak.mq4) that a great coder modified for me a couple of years back.(Thanks to Christina Li!!) It enters trades when price breaks or bounces of a trendline placed on the chart by the user. it has safety features built in...a pip limit to avoid spikes, spread distance, and waits for price to move below/above the break bar before entering You might be able to modify this one to hedge the position with bigger lot sizes, because it works great for anyone who trades trendlines!! (it doesn't work on horizontal lines) ( you have to name the upper and lower trendlines in the 'description' part of the dialogue box, not in the name part) ---------- I hope this helps, apologies in advance if not Happy pippping Daryl THE INDICATORS ON THE FIRST IMAGE The Moving average channel. On a 5min chart the two Moving average channel are just 150 period Exponential MA's, one on the high and the other on the low price. They are not needed to trade but I guess they might give an extra confirmation if they are moving down and the breakout occurs in their direction. They are more of a visual thing. The Price Action Dots and Arrows The black dot indicates 'reversal bars' where open and close price are at a certain % away from high or low of bar. The Red and Green little arrows indicate 'outside bars' once again I don't trade off these as they are leftover from another system. I should have removed them, but they are attached here if anyone wants them. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. The coloured squares are just market open and close hours for japan, london and US. Once again a visual thing only. |
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| Author: | Aus67 [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
DISREGARD ALL SORTED, THANKS STEVE!! Rito everyone, not sure what is happening here. for some reason, I cannot attach anything to this post. I browse to the file, then select 'add the file' ...the path disappears and nothing happens Will post attachments asap, sorry for the inconvenience traders Hope a moderator will be able to straighten this out! Cheers Daryl |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
Adding Gday to test this out. |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
I see adding the attachment worked ok, so there is a problem at your end, probably related to your browser. I use Firefox. On one of my machines, F will not display picture attachments. On the one I am using now, they display fine. Instead, I find random words underlined and hovering the mouse over them takes me to ads for ipad stuff that I would not even accept for free. Wonderful thingies, computers. |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
Just to confirm, as a PCA I can log in using your forum 'permissions'. I just did and was able to post an attachment, so the prob is definitely at your end. |
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| Author: | Aus67 [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Does this have merit?? |
thanks I will reboot the computer and see what happens |
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