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phil_trade [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:38 am ]

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Re: Protrader V3

garyfritz wrote:Hm, I would guess that TMASlope indi *does* repaint -- since it turns precisely where the market turns. (Does it have an ignoreFuture or similar input?)

Since the ProTrader values are the same, that would indicate it's repainting. Which I would have expected. I don't see how you could import MQL without providing the same (flawed) execution environment.

Yes, it's a modified GetSlope() with only TMAtrue

Empty4 code

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//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
//| GetSlope()                                                       |
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
double GetSlope(string symbol, int tf, int shift)
{
   int shiftWithoutSunday = shift;
   if ( addSundayToMonday && sundayCandlesDetected && tf == PERIOD_D1 )
   {
      if ( TimeDayOfWeek( iTime( symbol, PERIOD_D1, shift ) ) == 0  ) shiftWithoutSunday++;
   }   
   double atr = iATR(symbol, tf, 100, shiftWithoutSunday + 10) / 10;
   double gadblSlope = 0.0;
   if ( atr != 0 )
   {
      double dblTma = calcTmaTrue( symbol, tf, shiftWithoutSunday );
      double dblPrev = calcPrevTrue( symbol, tf, shiftWithoutSunday );
      gadblSlope = ( dblTma - dblPrev ) / atr;
   }
   
   return ( gadblSlope );

}//End double GetSlope(int tf, int shift)

ProTrader Code

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double GetSlope(string symbol, int tf, int shift)
{
   int shiftWithoutSunday = shift;
   if ( addSundayToMonday && sundayCandlesDetected && tf == PERIOD_D1 )
   {
      if ( TimeDayOfWeek( iTime( symbol, PERIOD_D1, shift ) ) == 0  ) shiftWithoutSunday++;
   }   
   double atr = iATR(symbol, tf, 100, shiftWithoutSunday + 10) / 10;
   double gadblSlope = 0.0;
   if ( atr != 0 )
   {
      double dblTma = calcTmaTrue( symbol, tf, shiftWithoutSunday );
      double dblPrev = calcPrevTrue( symbol, tf, shiftWithoutSunday );
      gadblSlope = ( dblTma - dblPrev ) / atr;
   }
   
   return ( gadblSlope );

}//End double GetSlope(int tf, int shift)

ProTrader show the exact MQL code...so I guess it doesn't repaint !

Author:	TraderDesk [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:15 am ]
Post subject:	Protrader V3
I am trying out Protrader V3 from PFsoft and I really really like it. I imported a lot of my indicators from Empty4 with no problem and it allows me to customize my setup however I want. I especially like the using the Market Depth that they have with the LMAX feed... Their site is www.protrader.com Can we set up a separate sub-forum for Protrader as well?

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Author:	TraderDesk [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
phil_trade wrote: TraderDesk wrote:I am trying out Protrader V3 from PFsoft and I really really like it. I imported a lot of my indicators from Empty4 with no problem and it allows me to customize my setup however I want. I especially like the using the Market Depth that they have with the LMAX feed... Their site is http://www.protrader.com Can we set up a separate sub-forum for Protrader as well? I imported a lot of my indicators from Empty4 with no problem Hi what do you mean by "imported" ? Automatic conversion ? Philippe Yes... I would just import the MQL file and it would work... For example I would click add indicator on the chart. A list of indicators will come up as well as a menu box that said Import. I would click on Import and I picked a MQL indicator file and it would do the conversion automatically.... Works for me really well....

Author:	phil_trade [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
Waoo ! Just 5 minutes after creating a demo account, I have imported TMAslope... and the value are accurate ! a lot of work to learn this new software...but some beautiful promises !

Author:	TraderDesk [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
phil_trade wrote:Waoo ! Just 5 minutes after creating a demo account, I have imported TMAslope... and the value are accurate ! a lot of work to learn this new software...but some beautiful promises ! That is how I felt as well.... Also I was told that they will come out with a Visual Adviser in a few weeks that will allow me to do things that EA's do without knowing how to be a programmer... Can't wait....

Author:	garyfritz [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
Hm. If it can directly import MQL, that almost certainly means they implement the braindead Empty4 indicator semantics -- which makes it almost impossible to write non-repainting indicators, etc. That's unfortunate.

Author:	phil_trade [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
garyfritz wrote:Hm. If it can directly import MQL, that almost certainly means they implement the braindead Empty4 indicator semantics -- which makes it almost impossible to write non-repainting indicators, etc. That's unfortunate. How can we see / detect that ? Of course data feed are different.

Author:	garyfritz [ Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
Hm, I would guess that TMASlope indi does repaint -- since it turns precisely where the market turns. (Does it have an ignoreFuture or similar input?) Since the ProTrader values are the same, that would indicate it's repainting. Which I would have expected. I don't see how you could import MQL without providing the same (flawed) execution environment.

Author:	phil_trade [ Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:35 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Protrader V3
on the paper, ProTrader seems to be great : I only find AlgoStudio 2 feature and I'm waiting for support answer for algo 3, but a lot of things to be happy, no ? AlgoStudio is a programming environment for AlgoTraders. It is an integral part of the all-in-one Protrader 2 platform. • Main Features: • The ability to create indicators, strategies (Expert Advisors) and scripts (macros), • Support for programming languages MQL4 and C# (.NET platform), • The History Data Manager tool for creating customized instruments or importing data from different sources, • The capability to perform backtesting on custom historical data or data provided by a broker, • Backtesting of single instruments or multiple instruments simultaenously,• The possibility to backtest multilple time intervals (support for non-standard time intervals such as M7, H3, D5, etc.), • The possibility to backtest all chart types available on the platform Protrader 2 (Renko, 3 Line Break, Kagi, Price Range, etc.), • Strategy testing in ticks, minute, or daily data, • The possibility to test strategies at Bid, Ask, and Trade prices, • Two strategy testing modes: with visualization or without visualization, • Two emulation types: one position or multiple positions, • Capability to use functions that provide access to Level II, • Strategy optimization tool, • Plain text and graphic reports, • Editor with IntelliSense support, • Dictionary with a list of all availabile functions in AlgoStudio, • Debugger, • The Profiler tool for strategy analysis and effeciency, • A tool for importing and exporting parameters of testing strategies.

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