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| Author: | Dozer [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Grid Trading EAs |
In another thread: (http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... f=32&t=347) some folks were asking about recommendations for Grid Trading EAs. I thought it would be best to make any commercial recommendations here in the proper area. I have no connection with the companies that offer these EAs nor do I receive any compensation for recommendation or referrals. This is just my humble opinion about some grid trading strategies that I have used. Grid trading is a reasonable trading strategy. You just need to fully understand the strategy and accept it's risk to reward factors. Grid strategies are no different than any other strategy. You can risk a small amount to try to make a small amount, or you can risk more to make more. Can grid strategies blow the account? Of course! Almost any EA can blow an account, especially in extreme or wild market movements. Just take that into consideration when using these strategies. My approach with grid strategies has been to start with a small account with an amount that I am fully willing to lose, let the grid strategy run and regularly pull out any profits. I've had several accounts get blown out, but I took out way more profits than I lost to the blown accounts. I expect to lose the account at some point. That's included as part of the strategy. Overall, I've made a decent profit using grid strategies. I believe it's valuable to have it as part of your trading portfolio, but I wouldn't recommend it as the bulk of your trading efforts due to it's inherent unpredictability and erratic cash flow. Not all of my grid trading accounts have blown up. I have some accounts that have been running profitable grid trading strategies for several years now. They have been close to getting blown out and have had significant drawdown, but they did recover and generate a nice profit. However, I still treat them as if I could lose the whole account at any time and regularly pull out any profits. I code my own EAs, but my grid trading EAs are similar to some free EAs and some commercial EAs that I have used in the past. There's nothing wrong with these other commercial EAs, I just prefer to trust my money to code that I have written and fully understand. For those that are interested in automated Grid Trading I'd recommend the following: 1) Blessing 3 (http://www.jtatoday.info/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) There is plenty of information on the Internet about Blessing 3. You can download it for free and there is a very comprehensive manual and several recommended settings for different pairs. I don't have any experience with their commercial products, but would assume that they are similar to the Blessing strategy. 2) PipStrider (http://www.forex-goldmine.net/showcase#tab2) This EA is a fairly simple grid trader that has done very well for me in the past. 3) RoboMiner (http://www.forex-goldmine.net/showcase#tab1) This is a very solid and well documented grid trader. The people who sell RoboMiner and PipStrider are quite smart and fully support their products. I've been very impressed with them. You can register on their website, for free, and download the EAs and run them on a Demo account for as long as you want. Seriously? How many other commercial EA providers let you do that? I'd highly recommend downloading them and running them on multiple demo accounts for at least a month. It won't cost you anything other than your time to see if these EAs will work for you. If you spend some time to really understand how they work, what the risks are, and regularly pull out profits from your accounts, grid trading can be a nice addition to your trading portfolio. You can reasonably expect to make 2%-6% a month using sensible settings and risk levels. Good luck in all your trading. Dozer |
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| Author: | DING [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
expecting have more people share trading experience or recommand for free and open source grid EA! |
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| Author: | fxozgirl [ Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
I own Robominer and agree the owners support the product well, however... Unfortunately I still have 10 open trades (live account) dating back to Oct 2009 with a current combined loss of approx 6000 pips! Including negative swap (which is about half) that is approx -$900! This also doesn't include probably another dozen or so trades that I closed for a loss. Robominer is a mathematical grid trader that is for audnzd and was working fine until the GFC and the AUDNZD broke outside of it's all-time highest range... Fortunately I was trading well within their recommended levels and so have had the ability to hold the trades (I'm sure 2.5 years must be some sort of record It has been a slow process, but I am (very) slowly bringing my account back (My live account grew approx 29% last year, which I am very pleased with as I am very restricted on the number/size of trades I can take due to pre-existing drawdown) and I have learnt so much in this time, especially from an account preservation point of view. Please note, I'm not actually knocking the product (or your recommendation), Robominer was working great until the market moved outside of it's known range, but I feel it is important for everyone to realise that the lines we draw on a chart are just that...lines, and history is history, the market will do as it wants. Always, buyer beware, do your homework and trade well within your financial capacity...And always expect the worst to happen, because it just might! |
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| Author: | Gamma_gallus [ Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
Regarding blessing EA, I have tried so many different combinations (mainly backtest with dukascopy tick data (99% quality data) for 2 or 3 years tests) , no one really worked well so far. There are thousands of different combinations, it's really complex to manipulate it. |
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| Author: | DING [ Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
I research B3 in recently, just my thought that B3 have different entry strategy, so need to based on pair characteristic to find out the specific entry/exist strategy , no one combinations could work for all pair grid strategy. |
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| Author: | Gamma_gallus [ Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
Agree, so fine tunning the bot over and over again for each pair is really hard. |
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| Author: | pmacel [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
While back I traded Robominer and it cost me $20,000. |
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| Author: | SteveHopwood [ Fri May 03, 2013 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grid Trading EAs |
I was doing a bit of a trundle around old threads and came across this one. Even when best intentioned (and this is rare) commercial EA's suffer from significant weaknesses:
I am continually amazed by the genius of the systems developers here. The quality of work they produce is stunning. If any bunch of developers/coders can produce stuff that will stand the test of time, it is our lot. For sure, none of them want paying for it and all recognise the power of mass involvement. Boy oh boy, but this forum has progresses since the OP posted this. |
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