I am going to place copies of this in several forums to make sure its message is widely understood.
At some stage, every trader will meet Martingale for the first time and become very excited about it. The idea is sooooooo seductive. At its simplest, M involves this:
- - every time a trade is a loser, double the lot size for the next trade.
- eventually, a trade will hit its take profit target and recoup all the losses from previous trades.
And then consider this; the next trade is double the size that was too hideous for your nightmare.
And then consider this unbreakable, unshakable, unavoidable law of Forex trading; if something can happen, and it is bad for you, then it will happen and probably sooner rather than later. If it happens later, then it was toying with you and you were ball-achingly lucky.
Garyfritz has emerged as this forum's National Treasure. Stunningly clever, mathematically adept at levels I cannot even begin to dream about and possessing an ability to analyse that makes me gasp, I asked him to do some M debunking.
Here is what he posted in one of our threads. As you read it, bear in mind Gary's conclusions which are these:
- - In the vast majority of cases he studied, and in virtually ALL realistic cases, a Martingale system will not turn a losing system into a winner.
- M applied to a successful trading system will increase the profits, but only at the cost of occasional heart-stopping drawdown. You can gain the same result by increasing the starting lot size of your trade and dropping M.
I haven't tried proving this but I think it may be possible for a M to *improve* a system's results. E.g. it may be possible to turn a slight loser into a slight winner -- but at the cost of dramatically increased risk and a terrifying equity curve.
If you have infinite funds, so you NEVER EVER blow out of the M, then you could produce a closed-trade equity curve that looks like a straight line. But your open equity -- the actual day-to-day current value of your account -- is going to have frequent huge drawdowns. Since you have infinite funds, so you can survive any possible sequence of recovery trades, you don't care. You accept a tiny but guaranteed return on your infinite account.
But for those of us with finite funds -- which I suspect is most of us!! -- you can't guarantee you will NEVER blow out of the M. So you have to take enormous risks for small gains, and that's a very dangerous way to trade.
The exact progression of recovery levels -- 1.2.4.8.16, or 1.1.2.3.5.8.13, or whatever -- will change the results, but it will not change the M from "disaster waiting to happen" into "guaranteed money machine." It might reduce the chances of an inevitable blowup, but the blowup is still inevitable. The only question is whether you can survive the blowup, and whether the resulting profits (if any) after the blowup are worth the risk. I strongly suspect they aren't.
Martingales are "perpetual motion machines" that claim to create something from nothing. Unless you're Rumplestiltskin and can spin gold from straw, that doesn't work in the real world. Steve is right -- you're better off to learn how to trade, instead of relying on hocus-pocus to do the work for you."
Then his next post in the same thread:
"I decided I needed some numbers to back up my intuition.
I threw together a spreadsheet that does a crude simulation of a Martingale system. It simulates 1000 random trades, then trades it as you specify: win%, win size, loss size, M bailout point, M progression. It shows the results of trading those random trades without any Martingale, and trading them with your specified Martingale parameters.
BTW I should point out that while I was working with this, simulating a system with 50% wins, I saw one case where I got TWENTY-ONE CONSECUTIVE LOSSES. That's a freakishly uncommon result, a chance of 1 in 2 million, but it's the kind if thing that CAN happen. That's the kind of event that can kill you, no matter how well-capitalized you think you are for Martingale blowups.
So, what did I see in my simulations?
With a random coin-flip system -- 50% wins, win size = loss size -- the Martingale is also a coin-flip. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it hurts. No benefit that I can see. If the system result is random, the M results are random. This was true for all progressions I tried.
With a winning system, it gets more interesting. With 50% wins, a 2:1 W/L ratio, and bailout at level 5, the Martingale consistently made about 2.0-2.5x more profit. HOWEVER you could get very similar results without a Martingale, just by increasing your fixed position size by about 2.5x.
There are a zillion ways you could play the numbers, and I've attached the spreadsheet for your own experimentation. Let us know if you find a miracle Martingale. From my experiments, my conclusions are:
- A Martingale will not turn a losing system into a winner, unless you NEVER hit the blow-up case. In a normal situation where you occasionally hit the bail-out level, the Martingale usually loses significantly worse than the basic non-M system.
- If the system is a random coin-flip, the Martingale results will also be random. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.
- If the system is a winner, a Martingale will increase the profits, but you have all the Martingale problems. You can achieve similar returns just by increasing your position size, and you will have fixed known risks, a more consistent and sane equity curve, and no worry of a Martingale blowup.
- If you have a high-win% system, your chances of long strings of losses are reduced (but NOT eliminated). E.g. for a system that wins 70% of its trades, the chance of N consecutive losses is (1-70%)^N; the chance of 7 consecutive losses is 0.30^7 = 0.022%. If you can survive 6 consecutive losses, you have only 1 chance in 4500 of blowing up with 7 losses. But remember those 21 consecutive losses with 50% wins... If you never blow up, your closed-equity curve is a beautiful straight line. But once again with that 70% system you could get about the same results just by increasing your position size by about 1.7x, and you have none of the Martingale risks.
- Bailing after a few consecutive losses results in smaller blowup losses, but the blowups happen more often. Bailing after more consecutive losses causes fewer blowup losses, but they're bigger. The end result tends to be similar even though the equity curves may look very different.
- If you're lucky, you won't hit many blowups, and you'll make more money than without the Martingale. If you're NOT lucky, you may hit a lot of blowups, and you'll lose far more than you would have without the Martingale. If you're like me, the Trading Gods will guarantee you see the latter result, and the Martingale will kill you.
Therefore: I conclude that Martingale Mania is a will-o-the-wisp, a fantasy. Martingales hugely increase your risks without providing any benefit. Martingales won't help you unless your system is already a winner, and if your system is a winner, a Martingale is a bad way to increase its returns.
Just Say No to Martingales."
You will notice that this thread is locked. I post it here merely to draw your attention to it. The discussion thread is available at http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 478#p12478
