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| Author: | viracoccha [ Sun May 27, 2012 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | NASY |
Ok ... I try make that one quickly ... or in another way I just born many people because my bad English. For beginning I talk a litte bit for my self and the basic idea of NASY. In end of that borning and hard reading text I give my settings and 1 month demo results graph. You can jump in the end (MY RESULTS) right avay if you dont hawe interested how NASY works. Some words for my self to convince that I am not rooky in this "business". I started trade in forex market 2 and half years ago. In the first half trading year I had some great wins and and more greater loses so basically I haven lost more than won. But I learned much. One thing what I learned were that I never ever start trading in manually way again ... I want save my nerves. And from this moment I started thinking about "grid" trading. I have thought about that two years already... and the truth is that there is always possibility to lose ... always. But here is some result my last system/strategy. So far it works. Some words about NASY. EA makes sell and buy in the same time. The point is that it secure one of the orders just before second wave (another buy and sells goes in). That is most important that it worked that way. So ... EA earns when there is „V“ or „U“ shapes moving .... it earns even in ranging market. But if market start rally in one direction then you are in trouble. Example: price is 1.3000. Every 20 pips there would be new orders and 10 pips is „secure“ level. 1.3020 it secured previous buy and makes new orders. 1.3040 it secured buy also. Att this moment I have there 3 buys and three sells. Two buys are secured. If market falls to 1.3000 then I had won 20 pips and besides that I had there 20 pips profit inside, because now I had there 3 sells and 1 buy. What happen if market start rising again .... then I lost ... NO. Because in level 1.3000 I had secured two sells also. Actually this is not so simple because EA makes new orders if it goes down also but that was basic idea and rough example. So my system based on that EA. As that example shows there is risk that we may lost balance and we have a little troubles. Because of that I need there another grid EA what keeps the account balance. MY RESULTS: I have tested NASY 4 weeks (from 16th April to 4th May, then there were 2 weeks pause (I dont had opportunity to control my acc) and 4th week were 21 May to 25 May) I trade only EURUSD I started with 160 USD, at this moment I have 420 USD. My settings what I have changed: Lot – 0.04 TradeStepSize – 10 TakeProfit – 20 StopLoss – 1000 (there may be 0 as vell .... basically this function should not work with my settings anyway. The point is that this system should not took out SL) BreakEvenProfit – 10 IMPORTANT NOTES: those settings means that my step size is 20 pips not 10. The reason is that this system was build a litte bit another reason as I use it for now. You gan read original idea in first post in NASY thread. But EA works fine and it is wery quick and it makes his move in right order. Steve made gerat work to code original idea .... but may way of use is different ... so blame me . I dont have test original settings but the way of work is same anyway .... so forget what I dold at the moment and we can go on ..... From this moment I dont test only NASY but I have there one of my friends EA what helps keep ballance. So basically I cant tell that this is pure NASY .... it is 70 percent NASY and 30 percent something different. I fright that I cant post here that another EA becouse it is not mine and it were ordered EA. Sadly I dont find such kind EA in the inthernet also . But the idea of that EA is freaking siple. My coal in futuure is to but togeather NASY and that ballanced EA. Here is my graph: http://imageshack.us/f/210/xyz4thweek.jpg/ Yellow periood is only NASY periood .... as you can see it is „jumpy“ Blue periood is NASY and balanced EA togeather ... it is smooth, this blue periood is a week long. Red shows how ballanced EA keeps ballanse ... in that moment market goessuddenly down about 100 pips. Ballanced EA earned 200 dollars and it lost 150 dollars. Week sides: orders In some cases there may be many orders inside, I haven seen about 20. Ballance may be lost if there is battern 20 up 10 down, 20 up 10 down and so on and on .... Besides that there is risk if you crap Empty4 freezing ..... if you hawe there orders inside then whole system MUST run. The reasoni s that if you lost ballance and market moves bad sides and your Empty4 is freezed then you may see surprise (my system had freezed but nothing bad haven hapened yet, connection lost is probleem too). Strong sides: Most of cases it keeps nice ballance and you can took orders out manually. If market moves down that EA start collect sell orders inside .... if market moves up then soon there are more buy orders .... so ... this system react quicly. Futures: At the moment I continue synchronize NASY and ballanced EA .... it is not perfect for me. I hope earn in that demo acc 1000 USD .... then I think that I may talk with some coders again to but all system in one EA. I must proof that system. If all goes well then arter 2 weeks I may start LIVE trading with that system also .... but it depends. I have small trader ... I always start trading with 200 dollars because my big lost in past If there are interest about that balanced EA or NASY or what ever then I try give answer. All questions are welcome especially questions about grid trading. |
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| Author: | viracoccha [ Sun May 27, 2012 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
here all it was born: http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... ?f=5&t=408 |
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| Author: | laharjaya [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
hopefully any update will post here |
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| Author: | snowball [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
Hi viracoccha, I wonder what your max. DD is and could you pls. describe the balancing EA trading rules? many tx. |
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| Author: | viracoccha [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
During previous week my acc blew. Main reason was that EURUSD pattern - it headed only down. As I told NASY works "U" pattern moving. My balanced system dont worked because I made calculation mistake (I am still so stupid Balanced system point is to make two times more orders as NASY. If nasy dont have balance then another system sooner or later compensate that IF market moving in same direction. Why ballancing system works in big movement? I use EA (not my EA) what buts buy stop and sell stop orders. Ecample - prize is 1.4000, then there is buy stops above that prize (1.4010, 1.4012 .....) and same is sell stops (1.3990, 1.3980 .....) if prize is 1.4010 then it makes buy and in 1.4000 appears sell stop .... I use some management also to secure some positive orders and I have there SL (NASY dont have SL .... at least in settings what I used) As you see, if market moves quickly in one direction then it earns. (example in previous week (Friday) market moves 100 pips above (EURUSD) and I earned 200 dollars in 0.02 lots) BUT that balanced system losing if there is no moving ... if market ranging .... then it losing money ..... not much but consistently. This "balanced system" is system whom I was fighting two years. I post here soon fresh results. Next acc is a little bit bigger and I dont use 0.04 lots anymore Soon here is new results. |
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| Author: | ankof1 [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
@Viracoccha do you run the ea only on your computer or doy you rent a VPS? A simple VPs is cheap and easy to test ea's. (If you want a can say to you the VPS company that I use and where I can trust on) And if the ea opens positions with equal lotsizes then is it always better to choose the minimum lotsize (on demo). Maybe is this a stupid question but it is very important to your ea. Does your ea set TP en SL in your positions. If the answer is 'Yes'. The you must to read this article. (http://www.aboutcurrency.com/articles/f ... ting.shtml) The solutions is that the ea may not set TP an SL in the positions but that the ea 'manage' the SL and TP |
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| Author: | viracoccha [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
That VPS is thinkable if I can sync my system .... thanks for idea. What is about those SL and TP then yes I use those things. And I use one manage systems to. This balanced system makes many many orders .... I dont believe that someone hunts my stops because then they must moving market all the time 40 pips up and down (ballanced system dont use TP). My idea is that if I lost one order then opposite order is secured at least in zero level. |
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| Author: | viracoccha [ Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
those who are interested for that system, then I start with new tests next month. I have some problems and I need more time to synchronize both strategies. As I use NASY and another grid EA, then probably I make two accounts (they are as same system), this gives me opportunity research both system separately. |
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| Author: | forextrader786 [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
@viracoccha any new update ? |
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| Author: | viracoccha [ Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NASY |
at the moment no.... I must apologize because I dont had time to handle with that Ea after it blew my acc ... (some real life problems).... NASY dont win if market moves only in one direction. But what goes down goes up again. So ... solution may be to use bigger steps .... I change my settings and I try find another way how to use that EA. In ranging market those settings what I post in my first post are OK. |
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