HGI - Page 85

Post by **Radar** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:46 pm

Schweeeeet!!!

Thank you, gentlemen!

Post by **milanese** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:51 pm

SunsetTrader » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:36 pm wrote:This is my first post so the first words go to the guys that generously worked on this great indicator, thank you!

One thing I have noticed is that although the history looks awesome we don't have exactly the same picture leaving it for a couple of days or refreshing the chart with the indicator. How do you handle these variations?

Please read the entire thread you will find answers to your question, and the thread is worth reading!!

Cheers

Tommaso

pipyoda · Post by **pipyoda** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:21 pm

Hmm..Never heard of 'Hurst' before I popped into the HGI/Hurst forum ( great work guys).I got a feeling this is going to be a key filter. Thanks for sharing nanningbob.

SunsetTrader · Post by **SunsetTrader** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:55 pm

milanese » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:51 pm wrote:
SunsetTrader » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:36 pm wrote:This is my first post so the first words go to the guys that generously worked on this great indicator, thank you!

One thing I have noticed is that although the history looks awesome we don't have exactly the same picture leaving it for a couple of days or refreshing the chart with the indicator. How do you handle these variations?
Please read the entire thread you will find answers to your question, and the thread is worth reading!!

Cheers

Tommaso

I have read it, but still having some doubts analysing past charts. But we should only considered last/fresh signals, right? As if they were adapting to reality...

Thanks.

Post by **milanese** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:09 pm

SunsetTrader » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:55 pm wrote:
I have read it, but still having some doubts analysing past charts. But we should only considered last/fresh signals, right? As if they were adapting to reality...

Thanks.

version 15.06 and later versions try to resolve the problem if you do not change the tf and let the indicator run, there will be no repaint effects in past candles..

Cheers

Tommaso

Post by **alorente** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:36 pm

SunsetTrader » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:36 pm wrote:This is my first post so the first words go to the guys that generously worked on this great indicator, thank you!

One thing I have noticed is that although the history looks awesome we don't have exactly the same picture leaving it for a couple of days or refreshing the chart with the indicator. How do you handle these variations?

What I do is show two charts of the same pair. One with 15.06 in H4(Non repainting) and one with 15.05 (repaints). I get the whole picture that way.

Post by **SteveHopwood** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:37 pm

pipyoda » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:21 pm wrote:Hmm..Never heard of 'Hurst' before I popped into the HGI/Hurst forum ( great work guys).I got a feeling this is going to be a key filter. Thanks for sharing nanningbob.

Just a quick note about Hurst before you guys start getting all excited about it.

Boldtrader sent me a pm last week in which he wrote this:

Steve,

I would like to make a recommendation. Not to use Hurst, but rather to use the ATR channels. Reason.. ATR expand with volatility of the price action. Hurst do not. I tried Hurst a long time ago. ATR wins hands down. 12 years experience tells me not to use Hurst. Please consider the ATR channels that are set to Fibonacci values. Please trust me. Hurst are not the answer.

Cheers

Now, not entirely sure why Bill sent this to me as Hurst is merely another Crap Custom Abortion in my mind and I could not care less about this and would not even bother to have nightmares about using it. Fact is, he did. I suggest you guys take some notice of one of the most experienced traders here. Up to you of course, but only and idiot fails..........etc

Post by **Dewey McG** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:47 pm

Just thought would share some observations after playing with this stuff. I have been using a trade simulator to see how this would work in real time. It is easy to get overly excited when opening a new chart and seeing so many perfect signals in the past, but it doesn’t work quite like that in real time. It is still pretty awesome so for the fun of it I thought I would throw up an example of how a nice trade would have appeared in real time versus what we would see in a redrawn chart.

Post by **Dewey McG** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:48 pm

SteveHopwood » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:37 pm wrote: Just a quick note about Hurst before you guys start getting all excited about it.

Boldtrader sent me a pm last week in which he wrote this:

Now, not entirely sure why Bill sent this to me as Hurst is merely another Crap Custom Abortion in my mind and I could not care less about this and would not even bother to have nightmares about using it. Fact is, he did. I suggest you guys take some notice of one of the most experienced traders here. Up to you of course, but only and idiot fails..........etc

Thanks Steve. In playing around I have not been entirely convinced about Hurst yet but was giving it a look. I will spend some time looking at ATR Channels with this.

Post by **nanningbob** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:07 pm

Hurst is just another TMA derivative. The TMA formula is in the HGI so it would be like using MA with MACD. You will get similar results. I mean I started using V.7.0 on a live account with all the so called issues and problems for 2 weeks before we even got to this point of V. 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15 and then V. 15.01, 15.02, 15.03, 15.04, 15.05, 15.06, 15.07, now 15.08 and so on and on. In fact I was doing OK with the 240/60 before we even got to Elixe adding the TMA filters. I have learned two great truths in life:

IF YOU LOOK FOR PROBLEMS, YOU ARE GOING TO FIND THEM.
DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK FOR PROBLEMS.

I use HGI with the xxx.020 lines and trade the signals and make money. Why complicate a such a simple basic system?? It works, the majority off trades are profitable, what more could you ask for?