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Post by **SteveHopwood** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:00 pm

I am seeing some good ideas for RAD trading with pending stop and limit orders here and am thinking about how to accommodate them all.

It is easy to say: Ok, RAD signal so we set a pending stop or market or limit irder. It is much harder to code this as an either or. And much harder still to add it into an existing and already highly complex program structure.

The good news is that I put a lot of thought into the original program structure because I forsaw lots of ideas flowing in. It should be possible to add stuff whilst minimising the chances of LUC inviting his buddies around for anything from morning coffee to the binge of the millennium.

We shall see. Not for now for sure, because I have already imbibed. For now:

Happy New Year

Post by **currymonster** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:06 pm

Thanks and Happy New Year to Steve and everyone here,

Cheers

Post by **fx800** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:00 am

fx800 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:48 pm wrote:Hi

Thanks to Steve and everyone involved for HGB.

In manual trading, when a Rad signal appears, in a strong run, I set a pending stop a few pips above/below the high/low of the last bar. Else, I use Steve's STO7 trading aid to catch the retrace. Been quite effective so far. I guess it would be too complicated to code this.

A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AT STEVE'S FORUM !

My experience with HGB so far is instant market order with Trend trade, Wavy Line trade, and TradeWave trades, and pending order with Rad trade signals, and false with range trades. Still tweaking the setups as the results are still indifferent, but the results with manual trading using the HGB as semi automatic ea on selected pairs has been great even during the thin volatile trading conditions of the festive period.

I doubled my lot size with TrendWave trades as they are the most accurate so far.

Post by **fx800** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:13 am

My results from a small live account with HGB used as a semi auto ea on selected pairs from Boxing Day are posted below.

A net gain during the festive period, never achieved in all my years of trading forex.

Post by **wolfeman** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:46 am

Hmm... Boxing day... (I had to google it) Over here it's just the biggest shopping day of the year; go figure the crazy people. I stay home that day.

Nice results there fx800! I'm really impressed with HGB's results this month too! I left it running the whole time, figuring it would melt down over the Christmas season... Nope. It held it's own all along; up a little, down a little- but NO meltdown!
That's huge in my book. Happy New Year everyone! 2015 is lookin' good for us!

fx800 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:13 pm wrote:My results from a small live account with HGB used as a semi auto ea on selected pairs from Boxing Day are posted below.

A net gain during the festive period, never achieved in all my years of trading forex.

kvhutch · Post by **kvhutch** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:22 am

fx800 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:13 am wrote:My results from a small live account with HGB used as a semi auto ea on selected pairs from Boxing Day are posted below.

A net gain during the festive period, never achieved in all my years of trading forex.

Happy New Year Fx800. Nice results. A couple of questions:
1. What sessions are you trading?
2. How are you semi auto trading? Manual trading some and letting the EA trade others?

Cheers

Post by **boinvest** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:20 am

Happy New year!!!!

Hi Guys,
Guess its time to give you an update of the development of this toy..
(have been full-time working on it)

I've spotted a amount of bloops in previous version.
And improved some stuff, has become quite a list really..

When I was about to release it, I took it for a test drive..
Then I noticed it occasionally gave some errors...
So did'nt release that one, to prevent everyone polluting this thread with all the error messages..

That last little bug, kept me busy for days...
Challenged my bug spotting, coding and programming skills.
Thing was, Somethimes the EA was opening 2 digit orders.

Good thing really, learned a lot about Empty4

This little bug, made me test spin this baby on a 1m chart...
Which caused me to spot even more bloobs, (in coding and thinkering)

Finally found the 2 digit bloop in some the heritage of some "10.4 code"
Also, this made me rewrite some code on other places..
Right now, I am ready to take it again for a test spin..
If it's good, this can be a release candidate

SteveHopwood » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:00 pm wrote:I am seeing some good ideas for RAD trading with pending stop and limit orders here and am thinking about how to accommodate them all.

Great thinking! I was allready coding some of this stuff on the side..
to later be implemented into HGB. Maybe version 2f, dunno yet.

SteveHopwood » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:00 pm wrote: It is much harder to code this as an either or. And much harder still to add it into an existing and already highly complex program structure.

The good news is that I put a lot of thought into the original program structure because I foresaw lots of ideas flowing in.

Well, I left the program structure for what it is.. at least for now....

But also found, that this code is getting rather big, and there are other possibilitys to simplify it, make it more flexible..
Was thinking about going this road....
As I am excited to take the next version for a test spin... will release it asap.
With or without the Retracement function, I was working on..
Because the Retracement function I am working on, has a different program structure.
(which could be inserted into exsisting one.)
Want to see, how that one plays out, and maybe gradually change the structure in upcoming versions.

Post by **fx800** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:11 pm

kvhutch » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:22 am wrote:
fx800 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:13 am wrote:My results from a small live account with HGB used as a semi auto ea on selected pairs from Boxing Day are posted below.

A net gain during the festive period, never achieved in all my years of trading forex.
Happy New Year Fx800. Nice results. A couple of questions:
1. What sessions are you trading?
2. How are you semi auto trading? Manual trading some and letting the EA trade others?

Cheers

Answer to
Q1 - From Tokyo open to London close.

Q2 - I look at all the H4 charts to see which way the 60ma is pointing. Since I am focussing only on the trending pairs, I will choose only ones where the 60ma is either pointing up or pointing down. Will not trade ones where the 60ma is flat. I will drag the ea onto the charts I have selected and close the trades 2 to 3 hours into each trading session if in profit unless the trades are closed by the ea by the opposite signals. By doing it this way, I have stuck rigidly to not trading at least one hour before any high impact news and al least half an hour after. I think this is why my semi auto ea is profitable whereas my demos running the same ea on all available pairs 24/7 are showing indifferent results. I am very happy to leave out the range signals completely (I leave them for the expert scalpers) as they are high risk low reward trades.

I do not like to sit staring at the computer screens all day long, but would rather check the screen every two to three hours to see what is going on. Like Bob, I will take what the market gives me, and will not be too bothered if the trade runs another 50 pips after I TP. Rinse and repeat is what I like to do. Even though I see in the forum about many bugs being reported, it has not hampered my trading to any significant degree as you can see from the results. I would be happy to make do with 300 pips per week any day.

I would like to add that credit for the results are due to Steve for coding the ea, and Bob and many other contributors who develop the HGI.

Post by **Cyrus7** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:33 pm

First of all I have to thank nanningbob, Steve and the other geniuses around here for your generosity - wow! HGB is the best I've ever seen in trading! I'm really impressed how accurate the signals and especially the combination of trend+wave signals are!

I'm going to set up an additional demo just for combined trend and wave line trading and I'm not quite sure about the 'CandlesLookBack" settings. The trade should be taken after the current candle closes with a big arrow and the latest wave line wasn't printed more than 5 candles ago.

Are these the correct settings for the trigger stated above?

TrendCandlesLookBack: 1
WaveCandlesLookBack: 5

One more question: I know that there can be more signals when the PA is uncertain where to go but once the candle is closed the printed signals won't change anymore, right?

Thanks for your help!

Happy New Year to everone here at SHF!

FXe3 · Post by **FXe3** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:29 pm

I really like Bob's idea of stacking RAD trades, but I'm trying to work a filter to stop the trade out other than on opposite signal. I had 3 RAD enter on GBP/AUD and the opposite signal didn't close the trade until it averaged 207 pip loss. I haven't played with the ATR stop, maybe that is the answer.

I am seeing some ways to get us in earlier and stopped out sooner. Since price often retraces after the appearance of the RAD, maybe something like a centered TMA5 slope to enter immediately or wait for a turn for entry or stop out.