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dydynamic » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:42 pm wrote:Hi Occam,
is it easier to see levels on 4HR chart or 1HR chart as levels on both are not the same, which of them is more reliable, 4H or 1HR? :roll: :youknow:
I start with H4 just to get overall direction and key H4 levels (eg am I ready to turn with the H4 trend and catch potentially bigger move) but I mainly look for levels on my H1 chart and count pushes and get entries using W Ms RRTs on M15. See attached EU H1 for the last few days. I setup my charts so that I can just click back and forth between H4 and H1 so I can see the H4 levels (yellow) on the H1 (aqua) but not vice versa (so it doesn't clog up my H4 with H1 stuff)) and I label the levels as I go so I can see them on M15. Takes some work each day, but once done I know where I am, or should be, with a single look at a currency pair. Whatever works...

The last move up from the low of the 7th June was a bit tricky. I used the daily separators this time to identify the high of each day as the level, as the M15 push count was a bit difficult to identify. After the L3 high on 9th June we basically had 2 pushes down on M15 into the trapping volume also forming an ABC.

And then we have had a massive move up. The count on this move is a bit difficult, I'm not sure if it's just one big move to level 1 at the current high or whether there is a lower level 1. There is a retest to confirm the level. But to have that as level 1 would mean having 2 levels on one day (unless you treat it as a high from the previous day since it was early Asian session almost on the rollover). So I will wait and see, knowing it could be either.

So when it's like this I just label my level with a question mark to say I'm not sure of the count eg 'L1?' The top level will only be decided after today's high.

Sometimes my H4 1 level (yellow) doesn't line up exactly with my H1 3 (aqua). They should be in the same vicinty though, I place the levels generally on the closes, where I can see a range/consolidation, not on the tops of wicks (wicks are stop hunts lol), it just looks better to my eye and helps with retests. Hope that helps.

[Edit: It's not exactly the same as CJ draws them in the PDF (he draws the horizontal level at the pullback rather than the high - see page 130) but it identifies the same levels, the count is the same.]
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And here's the EU M15 with the daily separators to help identify the levels (I only switch them on when the level count is a bit difficult to identify). At the start of the day I move arrows to areas where I might expect W or Ms to occur. Then I'm good to go... whatever works!
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Hi Occam,
thank you for the way you drew the levels, it is very enlightening.
I will study it over the weekend. :hi: :) ;)
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GBPCAD M forming M15

Or not, coz that was rubbish, I miscounted a SH instead. However I do think it will create 2nd leg of M in the higher TF
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Occam, really like that pic you posted of how to do levels. I've taken the liberty of saving it. Thank you :)
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:xm: learning, trying, learning, trying... almost getting it... :!!: :!!:
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websie » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:55 am wrote:
BenSD » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:40 am wrote:
Thanks a lot for your good advice i think am currently going through what you have under gone i have only embrased the M n W patterns and by the grace of God i will get through the push, level. SH and Cycles. If i may ask what does CJ mean when he said WTF on the Pics that i have attached.
Once again thanks to the Moderator(steve) CJ for sharing his thought about the market, Sympathy, Occam and all other great traders of this forum whos names where not mentioned. i feel honored to be among you guy
ahem, er I think you will find that WTF is exactly that, an acronym for What The F.....! :D
Lol! thanks guys for being helpful. I will be busy with the PDF over the weekend.
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EUR/AUD D1
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CHF/JPY H4
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something weird has apeared on my chart, it's a 15 template from CJ and this arrow has appeared on the GJ M15 saying SSBO Sell 2015-10-7 20.15 190.086. Not a clue what that is. does anyone know?
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