rambo06 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:51 am wrote:Hey Sympathy,sympathy » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:35 am wrote:Hi bro, if you are new to this stuff, please try and practice the accumulation and stophunt/M/W pattern from the 15mins time frame ok. that is the best way to understand this method. just loadin your ADR and trade the highs and lows of the day then wait for M/W paterns. if you need more info i will drop an example here for everyone to see how i do it. thanksblazej » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:24 am wrote:Hi CJ,
I have been looking on m15 for the ongoing daily pattern. And I did not found it. But I should according to what You said, that the pattern repeats itself many times to form higher timeframe pattern. I have found few similiar patterns but they show different results. How to know which one is correct? Or the only way to get to know is to take a shot?
Cheers,
Blazej
When you have time, can you please post a chart illustrating the accumulation/stophunt/M/W pattern on the higher timeframe such as the 1H or 4H? I've been doing pretty well trading the cycle from the 15m tf on my demo but am having trouble with it still on the higher tf. I saw a chart you had posted a while back of the EU h4 cycle but it was hard to see where you had labeled the phases. Thanks for all you help!
All the best,
Rambo
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Captain Jack » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:53 am wrote:rambo06 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:51 am wrote:Hey Sympathy,sympathy » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:35 am wrote:Hi bro, if you are new to this stuff, please try and practice the accumulation and stophunt/M/W pattern from the 15mins time frame ok. that is the best way to understand this method. just loadin your ADR and trade the highs and lows of the day then wait for M/W paterns. if you need more info i will drop an example here for everyone to see how i do it. thanksblazej » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:24 am wrote:Hi CJ,
I have been looking on m15 for the ongoing daily pattern. And I did not found it. But I should according to what You said, that the pattern repeats itself many times to form higher timeframe pattern. I have found few similiar patterns but they show different results. How to know which one is correct? Or the only way to get to know is to take a shot?
Cheers,
Blazej
When you have time, can you please post a chart illustrating the accumulation/stophunt/M/W pattern on the higher timeframe such as the 1H or 4H? I've been doing pretty well trading the cycle from the 15m tf on my demo but am having trouble with it still on the higher tf. I saw a chart you had posted a while back of the EU h4 cycle but it was hard to see where you had labeled the phases. Thanks for all you help!
All the best,
Rambo
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When it comes to level counting, i normally use 1hr timeframe, 3days of rise/fall in price. you don't need to concentrate on 2days or 3days number all you need is to know were you are in the circle. once price rises a day, it becomes level one, next day rise is level2 etcWhoKnows » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:40 am wrote:Thanks guys for all the training. Grabbing quite a few pips now.![]()
But still only with the - most obvious setups -
I still have issues with level counting when price is ranging or within wedges. I often can see the structures that point to price topping and reversals, but if I can't make out the 'Level' the risk for poor entries increases.
E.g. EURAUD. Must be stupid me I didn't see the levels. I'll just have to keep practicing the black art of counting until I get it. Fortunately the examples of e.g. Sympathy who made some good EA trades help.
I marked up the EA chart below with the 4H Pushes and retraces to the Levels that I saw. Some here mark their Levels at the end of the Pushes, others mark their Levels at the end of the retrace. So for clarity I marked both.
I got stuck at the end of the chart. October 12 I thought that a new 4H cycle started with Push upwards, with a retrace on October 16 to 4H Level 1. Then a new push to a slightly lower top 4H2P on October 24. However there was no 3rd push up.... wrong count!
I also marked the chart with counting I found on Sympathy's charts. That is how CJ, Sympathy , Dudest, ZumZum and others help if you mark up your charts ... it makes us learn.... thanks.
I am re-reading the whole thread again to see if I misinterpreted the 'level counting' and find what I missed. But if you see where I go wrong in my counting in the chart above, pls let me know.
Also a 'simple question' :
If we look at H4 cycles, should the time/days that it takes to complete L1, L2 and L3 level be roughly the same? Or not? I thought each H4 level move was typically 3 days move+2 days retrace?
I know, ... a lot of text...
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DUDEST i don't map price but i have an experience about it because i have studied this our method very very well, when you start from the scratch as cj taught me you will begin to see things. to me i have seen things in this method even in my dreams i still see them. that EU monthly is a pattern you and i normally see everyday. it occurs every time just that you have not noticed them. that is why i tell people to practice the normal method then you will begin to see mapping everyday.please check GU weekly chart and tell me what you seedudest » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:55 am wrote:Hey Ramborambo06 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:38 am wrote:Hey guys,
I'm not a price mapper at all as I am not very good at it. But for those of you who are, I couldn't help but notice that CJ's prediction for this EJ monthly map seems to be based off what just happened/ is still happening on the EJ 4H chart. It is almost identical to the map that he has the monthly chart following.
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Noticed it yesterday as well [ that moment where you go, "Wait, I've seen this before....." ]
(1) EU MN1
(2) I don't know what CJ's source for the EU MN1 map is, but this one from 2011 looks pretty similar (so does AUDUSD W1)
(3) EJ D1
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CJ and Sympathy,sympathy » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:31 am wrote:DUDEST i don't map price but i have an experience about it because i have studied this our method very very well, when you start from the scratch as cj taught me you will begin to see things. to me i have seen things in this method even in my dreams i still see them. that EU monthly is a pattern you and i normally see everyday. it occurs every time just that you have not noticed them. that is why i tell people to practice the normal method then you will begin to see mapping everyday.please check GU weekly chart and tell me what you see![]()
JUST A PATTERN
Thank you very much for the charts and the analysis. I will look them over and over and over again. As for your question sympathy I see the same exact pattern on the GU chart you posted as I do on the 3 that dudest posted haha. unbelievable.
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If the price pull back to Asia range and close inside it ,Do we count it as level?
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I see them every time brorambo06 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:52 pm wrote:CJ and Sympathy,sympathy » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:31 am wrote:DUDEST i don't map price but i have an experience about it because i have studied this our method very very well, when you start from the scratch as cj taught me you will begin to see things. to me i have seen things in this method even in my dreams i still see them. that EU monthly is a pattern you and i normally see everyday. it occurs every time just that you have not noticed them. that is why i tell people to practice the normal method then you will begin to see mapping everyday.please check GU weekly chart and tell me what you see![]()
JUST A PATTERN
Thank you very much for the charts and the analysis. I will look them over and over and over again. As for your question sympathy I see the same exact pattern on the GU chart you posted as I do on the 3 that dudest posted haha. unbelievable.
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it depends how far they push the accumulation extension process. sometimes they push half of the level and complete it during the run. Hey for you to ask this question it means you are almost therefahedksa » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:58 pm wrote:If the price pull back to Asia range and close inside it ,Do we count it as level?
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I'm EJ long as well but for different reasons [ was online when that second RRT pin was forming
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