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kwchau » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:45 am wrote:
Would someone kindly enough to tell me what is the difference between 1p and 1o,

thank you in advance.

kwchau
I think the change history is :

- V1n - Defensive hedge added
- V1o - Sixths added
- V1p - Optional directional bias added to accomodate the TrendRangeCombo thread.

The basic bot with these features off hasn't changed.
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Bruster400 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:32 pm wrote:
I think the change history is :

- V1n - Defensive hedge added
- V1o - Sixths added
- V1p - Optional directional bias added to accomodate the TrendRangeCombo thread.

The basic bot with these features off hasn't changed.
Good, thank you so much ! :good:
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Bruster400 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:33 pm wrote:
Gertje,

Thanks for posting your initial results - I'll be watching closely. I've updated post 1 with v1e and linked to your post so people can get the full details and the link to your test.
Bruster400,

Interaction between the EA and a User I believe is important. I observed that the EA when overbought/oversold still sending trades which later turn into dd. I suggest a button is needed like START, PAUSE and RESUME trading. With these button, a user could layout where trades be populated in line with the direction of the Market.

The PAUSE button will stop sending trades for the moment and allow the trades to mature and then RESume when dd is manageable.

Thanks,

Haggadah
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Haggadah » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:15 pm wrote:
Bruster400 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:33 pm wrote: Gertje,

Thanks for posting your initial results - I'll be watching closely. I've updated post 1 with v1e and linked to your post so people can get the full details and the link to your test.
Bruster400,

Interaction between the EA and a User I believe is important. I observed that the EA when overbought/oversold still sending trades which later turn into dd. I suggest a button is needed like START, PAUSE and RESUME trading. With these button, a user could layout where trades be populated in line with the direction of the Market.

The PAUSE button will stop sending trades for the moment and allow the trades to mature and then RESume when dd is manageable.

Thanks,

Haggadah
Haggadah,

Such a thing is already in place, called "stop trading".
Make 2 setfiles, one with stop trading "on" and one with "off" and switch between those two.
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Gertje » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:58 pm wrote:
Haggadah » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:15 pm wrote:
Bruster400 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:33 pm wrote: Gertje,

Thanks for posting your initial results - I'll be watching closely. I've updated post 1 with v1e and linked to your post so people can get the full details and the link to your test.
Bruster400,

Interaction between the EA and a User I believe is important. I observed that the EA when overbought/oversold still sending trades which later turn into dd. I suggest a button is needed like START, PAUSE and RESUME trading. With these button, a user could layout where trades be populated in line with the direction of the Market.

The PAUSE button will stop sending trades for the moment and allow the trades to mature and then RESume when dd is manageable.

Thanks,

Haggadah
Haggadah,

Such a thing is already in place, called "stop trading".
Make 2 setfiles, one with stop trading "on" and one with "off" and switch between those two.
Gertje,

Thank you. I will look into it.

Haggadah
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Gertje » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:06 am wrote:Where everybody else jumped on DottyBot and I couldn't get it profitable using the previous versions (know why now), I kept playing RnR on demo as well on live (over $700 profit last week).

Watching it trade and digging itselve in a hole everytime again, I kept wondering what a directional bias would mean for the results.
Bruster was so kind to add yet another feature to his EXP version; a MA with all possible settings.

I put up a new demo with;
#0 plain vanilla RnR, Steve's version. 5 pip grid, ComplexSingleSideOffset allowed to mimic the settings on the other two.
#1 RnR EXP with 10 period SMA on the M15
#2 RnR EXP with 10 period SMA on the M5

The results were "interesting" to say at least......
I set it up late tuesday, so only 3 full day's of trading are included.

#0, plain vanilla.
1112 trades, $360 profit, max DD $2.229,74 :arrrg:

#1, M15 10 period SMA.
380 trades, $263 profit, max DD $466,94 :smile:

#2, M5 10 period SMA.
508 trades, $278 profit, max DD $375,05 :clap:


The difference is immense in my opinion.
I'll let this demo run for a few weeks more, results can be seen on http://www.fxblue.com/users/2051543

The small difference in profit between the plain vanilla and the EXP ones will easily be compensated by the option to trade higher lotsizes due to much lower DD. 0.01/$5.000 or even higher might be possible.

Also, I'm running a previous version of the EXP live with minimum TP=15 pips. This also makes a huge difference.

Time will tell.
Attached the EXP version with the MA option, play with it and lets find the optimal settings together.
:!!:

Hi, Gertje,
What is the name of two indicators in your chart? And where is the download address?
thanks!
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I've just been on to look at the results of Gertje's ongoing test of the latest EXP version and it's still showing very interesting results. Gertje, I'm sure you're watching these results closely but I hope you don't mind if I post a snapshot of what I've seen this morning. #2 is still looking strong - the DD speaks for itself. Can I just confirm, do you have Single Sided Offset "true" for the #0?
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Bruster400 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:09 am wrote:I've just been on to look at the results of Gertje's ongoing test of the latest EXP version and it's still showing very interesting results. Gertje, I'm sure you're watching these results closely but I hope you don't mind if I post a snapshot of what I've seen this morning. #2 is still looking strong - the DD speaks for itself. Can I just confirm, do you have Single Sided Offset "true" for the #0?
Hi Bruster,

I changed the ComplexSingleSideOffset to 'false' for all three demo's since the weekend, and last night I set the minimumpipprofit to '15' for the 2 experimental versions.

Also, I replaced the plain vanilla on my live account to the new experimental with M15 MA, like in #1.

EDIT: when the pair is in range mode, like GBPJPY yesterday morning, the original beats all without a doubt. When the pair takes off, the MA makes sure the EA only trades in the right direction and kicks ass. Since there are no/ less losers to set off, profit is bigger than the original.
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yczzd » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:04 am wrote:
Hi, Gertje,
What is the name of two indicators in your chart? And where is the download address?
thanks!
yczzd
Hi yczzd,

There is a section in this forum called "utilities, indicators and scripts", where you can find..... utilities, indicators and scrips. :smile:

There you can find Reneexxx's 'tradechart' and 'tradereport', settings are easily figures out.
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Gertje » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:41 am wrote:
Bruster400 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:09 am wrote:I've just been on to look at the results of Gertje's ongoing test of the latest EXP version and it's still showing very interesting results. Gertje, I'm sure you're watching these results closely but I hope you don't mind if I post a snapshot of what I've seen this morning. #2 is still looking strong - the DD speaks for itself. Can I just confirm, do you have Single Sided Offset "true" for the #0?
Hi Bruster,

I changed the ComplexSingleSideOffset to 'false' for all three demo's since the weekend, and last night I set the minimumpipprofit to '15' for the 2 experimental versions.

Also, I replaced the plain vanilla on my live account to the new experimental with M15 MA, like in #1.

EDIT: when the pair is in range mode, like GBPJPY yesterday morning, the original beats all without a doubt. When the pair takes off, the MA makes sure the EA only trades in the right direction and kicks ass. Since there are no/ less losers to set off, profit is bigger than the original.
And then a 250pip drop closes out all the open sells on the original for nearly $200,- where the EXP had little or no sells open and gained a lot less..... :arrrg:

High reward and high risk go hand in hand, one can't lower the risk without lowering the (potential) reward.
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