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[tomele]

Not easy to judge without having the indicator running on my terminal in order to see what the buffers are really doing. My first idea however is to use UBD instead of USD. I don't see any signals being painted to the chart, so USD might not be the right tool.

[freakyg415]

Of course I forgot to include the indicator. Apologies on that. I have used both UBD and USD versions to get this to work. With my experience, I have used the USDs on indicators that have changed from "empty value" to a value and have had success. Perhaps my experience is wrong, but for that very reason I attempted use both UBDs and USDs in order to get the indicator to work properly. I have obviously failed at that so far. I have been using a blank XAUUSD chart with only the attached indicator on it to try to make sure there was nothing overloading the system. I have also tried other blank charts such as ZM, GBPCAD, AUDCHF and they all returned different results than the XAUUSD or whatever other currency chart I was using at the time.

Just trying to give some context so I don't look like more of an idiot than I feel lol. Thanks for your time.

V/r,
Osito
:hi:

[freakyg415]

Here are the UBD settings I have done with the same result

I have tried UBDs and USDs with the following:
value is greater than 0
value equals 1
value is greater than or equal to 1
value is less than or equal to 1
value does not equal empty value

I'm lost

[tomele]

This indicator apparently doesn't work with UBD/USD.

Cheers

[freakyg415]

This indicator apparently doesn't work with UBD/USD.

Cheers

I am not trying to ask you to accomplish this for me as I am sure your time is precious. Just looking for some tips. Is there any type of coding that I can add to the indicator to add UBD/USD functionality? The crazy thing is the other buffers (0-3) work with no issues with USD. I have been using them for a month. I had the other buffers (4 and 5) added for a different purpose and here we are. Coding is weird like that I guess. I'll continue investigating though. Thanks for your time Thomas.

V/r
Osito G
:hi:

[TableTop]

I'm looking for a box indicator that i can use with TDesk. The ones that I've found so far do not show a buffer value so I'm a bit stuck. I am trying to get the high and low of a trading session (or part of a trading session). Any help is appreciated.

EDIT: I've been testing Peak HiLo (24 bars seems good on m15). This isn't exactly the way that I had been developing the trading strategy, but it may work out better!

So, I thought I had a solution but it's not working out, so I'm back to ask if anyone has any ideas.

What I am looking for is an indicator that can give me the high and low of a period, ideally with the option of adding/subtracting a % to the high/low to give an entry signal (although this could be handled by Desky). Ideally, it should be possible to have multiple boxes (highs/lows) per day.

I've tested out a load of box indicators and the best one so far is from Hanover on FF. However, it doesn't display buffers in the data window, so I cannot use it with TDesk. I attempted to modify the source code (I thought it might be fairly easy) but I knew as soon as I looked at the source code I was unlikely to succeed.

Any help, pointers or guidance is appreciated.

[SteveHopwood]

I'm looking for a box indicator that i can use with TDesk. The ones that I've found so far do not show a buffer value so I'm a bit stuck. I am trying to get the high and low of a trading session (or part of a trading session). Any help is appreciated.

EDIT: I've been testing Peak HiLo (24 bars seems good on m15). This isn't exactly the way that I had been developing the trading strategy, but it may work out better!

So, I thought I had a solution but it's not working out, so I'm back to ask if anyone has any ideas.

What I am looking for is an indicator that can give me the high and low of a period, ideally with the option of adding/subtracting a % to the high/low to give an entry signal (although this could be handled by Desky). Ideally, it should be possible to have multiple boxes (highs/lows) per day.

I've tested out a load of box indicators and the best one so far is from Hanover on FF. However, it doesn't display buffers in the data window, so I cannot use it with TDesk. I attempted to modify the source code (I thought it might be fairly easy) but I knew as soon as I looked at the source code I was unlikely to succeed.

Any help, pointers or guidance is appreciated.

There would have been only 7 buffers available when Hanover coded his box indicator, so it was not possible to both identify multiple boxes and send their values to a buffer.

There are now loads more buffers available but that does not help you.

Like HGI, you need an indi that works in the here and now and then sends a signal to TDesk that Desky can respond to. No idea if one is available. Prove you have a tradable system and one of the indi coders here might be persuaded to code one for you.

[TableTop]

There would have been only 7 buffers available when Hanover coded his box indicator, so it was not possible to both identify multiple boxes and send their values to a buffer.

There are now loads more buffers available but that does not help you.

Like HGI, you need an indi that works in the here and now and then sends a signal to TDesk that Desky can respond to. No idea if one is available. Prove you have a tradable system and one of the indi coders here might be persuaded to code one for you.

Thanks for the feedback Steve. Below is a description of how I am using this indicator to support manual trading. I have been trading on and off for sometime, and the approach outlined below is new to me, but I am sure this will be old-hat to many of the folk on this forum. I only ever trade this intraday, and typically work from a M5 or M15 chart.

The chart below is a M5 of GBPNZD with 3 instances of Hanover’s Daily LinesBoxes indicator. The dark green filled box highlights the high and low of the pre-TKO, and the lighter horizontal green lines extend this high and low into the session. The orange box and lines are the same thing for the LO, while the blue box is for the NYO.

GN_M5_PreOpenRanges_20221006.png

The key requirements are that the indicator:

- can be set to capture the high and low for a set period i.e. 00:00 to 02:00, and work across all chart timeframes, i.e. this would encompass 2xH1 candles, 4xM30 candles etc.
- can adjust the entry level by either a % of the range or a number of pips i.e. the high of the range is 1.7550 and the high entry will be 1.7550 + n% of the range.
- can have multiple instances of the indicator on the chart

There are 2 entry methods (that I use). Breakout of the range, and reversal within the range. The way I decide the type of trade is quite subjective but also quite obvious. When the pre-session range is small, look for breakouts. When the pre-session range is large, look for range reversals. I don’t trade reversals within the range for the TKO – so will only look for breakout trades during this session. I have had more success with breakout trades than range reversals, but I have only just started studying the latter.

For a breakout entry, place a buy stop just above the range and a sell stop just below the range. If price stays within the range, close pending orders after a few hours (the range extension lines are where I tend to do this, and varies depending on the session). If the market is choppy and triggers both orders, the loss is limited to the pre-session range (plus spread, clearance pips and commission). If one order gets triggered, look to take profit sometime before the next session starts. Pivot points can be used to set a TP, either S/R1 or S/R2 depending on how strong the move looks and the last few days price movement. If the price has trended the last day or 2 I’ll take S/R1 but if the price has been in a tight range for a few days I may target S/R2 or sometimes 3.

For a range reversal entry (and this is still a work in progress), look for a wide pre-market range, and a reversal bar on the M15 either just before or on the session open bar. Place a SL a few pips above/below the pre-session range and TP at the opposite end of the range (less a few pips).

I think this could be automated, at least to a degree, but I need a TD compatible indicator in order to do this, and although there are many indicators available, I can’t find anything that gives me buffers.

To keep things simple, I plan to focus on automating breakout trades only. So the entry rules are very simple, enter just above/below the pre-session range. I’d like to be able to filter out if the pre-session range is too wide, but I think this could be achieved by making the entry a certain % above/below the range (which is what I do at the moment using the fib tool and is painfully slow) so that a big range will need a large breakout before entry.

My assumption is that a UBD will capture signals from the 28 pairs and TD to send an entry signal, for Desky to trade. In terms of trade management, I think Scalpy may be the way to go as you want to be in and out before the next session. Testing this theory for automation has been a bit limited as it is really painful trying to place 56 orders at the start of a session.

I hope this is of interest to a coder and welcome any questions or comments.

@Steve – if it’s not too much to ask...it would be very useful if Scalpy had the option to close pending orders when the basket is closed.

[ChuFXLife]

Hello,
I observed my Desky just stopped filling trades even when the conditions are met as seen on TDesk dashboard . On a closer look, i see that the EA's smiley face was no longer displayed on the chart.
I have tried reinstalling Desky, I have deleted the entire Empty4, reinstalled and yet no success, Desky will just not come back . The Expert folder and Journal says it's "successfully loaded", I dont know what has gone wrong please.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Chux

[SteveHopwood]

Hello,
I observed my Desky just stopped filling trades even when the conditions are met as seen on TDesk dashboard . On a closer look, i see that the EA's smiley face was no longer displayed on the chart.
I have tried reinstalling Desky, I have deleted the entire Empty4, reinstalled and yet no success, Desky will just not come back . The Expert folder and Journal says it's "successfully loaded", I dont know what has gone wrong please.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Chux

It is near impossible to help with problems on somebody else's machine. Here are my two cents worth.

Reload Desky and go to the Common tab to make sure that Experts and DLL's are ticked. It is possible for an individual ea to be disabled whilst Experts overall are enabled.

I always delete the folder altogether when doing a reinstall, then reinstall to a now folder with a different name. I don't think that the Empty4 uninstall feature removes everything, so that reinstalling to the same folder picks up stuff left behind.

Good luck.