Hi Shelley,
Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. It makes James16 more digestible! I also tried looking into James16 sometime ago and it's a humongous amount of pages to make sense of! Kudos to you!
Found a helpful indicator and Steve suggested I post it in your thread.
Found this James16 patterns indicator in FF which does preliminary scans for the following:
Bearish patterns: DBHLC, BEOVB, TMHTB
Bullish patterns: DBLHC, BUOVB, TMHTB
Inside Bars
It also identifies Pinbars but it needs to be more accurate. It needs to be able to identify a valid swing pattern and/or the Pinbar needs to be part of a Pinocchio formation.
By the way, I am no James16 expert.
James16
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Thanks RJ, I will attach the indicator to a chart and take a look, re: the pinbar is that your opinion or isrebeljedi wrote:Hi Shelley,
Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. It makes James16 more digestible! I also tried looking into James16 sometime ago and it's a humongous amount of pages to make sense of! Kudos to you!
Found a helpful indicator and Steve suggested I post it in your thread.
Found this James16 patterns indicator in FF which does preliminary scans for the following:
Bearish patterns: DBHLC, BEOVB, TMHTB
Bullish patterns: DBLHC, BUOVB, TMHTB
Inside Bars
It also identifies Pinbars but it needs to be more accurate. It needs to be able to identify a valid swing pattern and/or the Pinbar needs to be part of a Pinocchio formation.
By the way, I am no James16 expert.
that what the originator of the indicator says?
Have you been watching it yourself? Do you think the indicator is accurate?
Cheers
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Re: James16
Hi Shelley,fxozgirl wrote:
Thanks RJ, I will attach the indicator to a chart and take a look, re: the pinbar is that your opinion or is
that what the originator of the indicator says?
Have you been watching it yourself? Do you think the indicator is accurate?
Cheers
re: Pinbar statement above, this is my opinion. This indicator does basic identification of any pinbar it can find; it does not have sufficient coding to differentiate more accurately like identifying a Pinocchio bar (please see attached picture of James16 explanation of what qualifies as a Pinocchio bar).
The indicator does what it is programmed - that is, identify basic patterns without taking into consideration the placement of the bars. It gets us started instead of having to squint our eyes and zoom in or use data window to check if the daily bars qualify for some trading opportunities. I stress that we need to take note of the placement of the patterns. For instance, a Pinbar caught in a congested area / range is not a high quality trade opportunity. High quality BUVOB should be found near swings lows, and vice versa for high quality BEOVB.
So far, I have not seen any identification of TMLTB/TMHTB yet, these may be quite rare since different brokers have different spreads and bid prices at the same time.
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Re: James16
Thanks RJ, I haven't had a chance to attach the indicator yet, but will do today...I agree with your comments re: James16 pattern identification.rebeljedi wrote:Hi Shelley,fxozgirl wrote:
Thanks RJ, I will attach the indicator to a chart and take a look, re: the pinbar is that your opinion or is
that what the originator of the indicator says?
Have you been watching it yourself? Do you think the indicator is accurate?
Cheers
re: Pinbar statement above, this is my opinion. This indicator does basic identification of any pinbar it can find; it does not have sufficient coding to differentiate more accurately like identifying a Pinocchio bar (please see attached picture of James16 explanation of what qualifies as a Pinocchio bar).
The indicator does what it is programmed - that is, identify basic patterns without taking into consideration the placement of the bars. It gets us started instead of having to squint our eyes and zoom in or use data window to check if the daily bars qualify for some trading opportunities. I stress that we need to take note of the placement of the patterns. For instance, a Pinbar caught in a congested area / range is not a high quality trade opportunity. High quality BUVOB should be found near swings lows, and vice versa for high quality BEOVB.
So far, I have not seen any identification of TMLTB/TMHTB yet, these may be quite rare since different criminals have different spreads and bid prices at the same time.
I had already posted that James16 chart here (not sure if you saw this):
http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 8954#p8954
and also posted some pin bars I identified over the last couple of months or so here:
http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3 ... 8958#p8958
Thanks for your feedback and interaction...it's appreciated
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Re: James16
Shelley, I have watched the EA perform much better recently on my demo than it did at firs, which is very good news.
If you would care to define a Pinocchio pattern, I will add this to the EA.

If you would care to define a Pinocchio pattern, I will add this to the EA.
Read the effing manual, ok?
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Afterprime is the official SHF broker. Read about them at https://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=175790#p175790.
I still suffer from OCCD. Good thing, really.
Anyone here feeling generous? My paypal account is always in the market for a tiny donation. pianodoodler@hotmail.com is the account.
To see The Weekly Roundup of stuff you guys might have missed Click here
My special thanks to Thomas (tomele) for all the incredible work he does here.
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Re: James16
SteveHopwood wrote:Shelley, I have watched the EA perform much better recently on my demo than it did at firs, which is very good news.
If you would care to define a Pinocchio pattern, I will add this to the EA.
Steve, I understand your decision to stop further development on the EA, but I will still add the pinocchio pattern definition and continue to add other updates to this manual thread for those that are still interested in the manual strategy and in case any of our other coders are interested in picking up the project.
Thanks for your patience and willingness to assist on this project
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Re: TML & TMH
UPDATE:fxozgirl wrote:TML = Two or more Matching Lows
TMH = Two or more Matching Highs
At least 2 consecutive candle Highs/Lows must be within 2 pips of each other.
Price must break low in the next candle after 2 consecutive lows for a signal to enter trade in the direction of the trend
eg. 2 consecutive candles form with the same low, price continues to move down and breaks the low of the previous 2 candle's, sell trade is triggered on the break
opposite for matching highs
James16 notes the more consecutive matching highs/lows the stronger the trade will be if the break occurs
James16 also says this is a trend continuation trade, trend needs to be determined first, then take trade
On page 55 of the James16 FF thread, James makes this point -
Bar High/Lows do NOT need to be consecutive (see chart below)
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Re: James16
Shelley - imo you are not defining the DBHLC/DBLHC correctly. Check all the ones you posted from J16 Vs some of the ones you posted from your own charts. For a DBLHC to be valid, my understanding is that the close of the bar with the matching low MUST close higher than the high of the previous bar and vice versa with DBHLC.fxozgirl wrote:GBPCAD - BOVB & DBLHC
There are 2 trade setups on this chart, first trade BOVB...
Sell trade taken at 1.57272, price moved +98 pips
FIBS: price didn't retrace to the fib, so no trade would have been taken
2nd trade DBLHC...
Buy trade taken at 1.56984, price moved + 197 pips
FIBS: price didn't retrace back to the fib, so no trade taken
It is possible I have misunderstood all along but I don't think so.
Cheers,
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Re: James16
Hi Shelley
I'm new to Steve's forum but you just happen to have posted a thread about my favourite subject, J16, personally all of my consistent trading has revolved around this method.
Unfortunately it appears that you have stopped posting in the thread, are you still trading this method, and if so I'd be very interested to know how you're getting on with it?
Cheers, Mike
I'm new to Steve's forum but you just happen to have posted a thread about my favourite subject, J16, personally all of my consistent trading has revolved around this method.
Unfortunately it appears that you have stopped posting in the thread, are you still trading this method, and if so I'd be very interested to know how you're getting on with it?
Cheers, Mike