Brokers For Canadian & American Traders

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It's been a very long time since this forum was last posted in. Many if not all of the alternative brokers talked about here so far are either extinct or criminals.

We saw what happened with tomele when FortFS disappeared off the face of the Earth. We've also seen many others such as FXTM (formerly ForexTime) which proved to be unreliable.

For those of us living in North America, finding an all-around solid Forex broker is like finding an ever-disappearing needle in a haystack. Just when you find the one gem, it goes extinct for some reason and you have to continually hunt for a new one. Or out of nowhere you get the "due to regulations and changes we can no longer accept clients from your country" email.

So our only solution is to continually search for and update an always-changing list of brokers who will allow us to trade with them. I've spent the past month or so searching far and wide for every broker taking in myself and my trading friends. Believe me when I say I spent an awful lot of time talking to customer support agents. :arrrg:

This is my list as of now, completely subject to change in the future.

A FEW DISCLAIMERS:
  • You are 100% responsible for doing your due diligence and research on each and every one of these brokers. Some of them might be more criminal than others.
  • Some may not have the leverage you want, or the offered leverages may be too high. Or the spread is too high. Or the commissions are too high. Or they are an STP/ECN broker. You get the picture.
  • For those of you trading instruments other than currency pairs (cryptocurrencies, stocks, commodities, metals, indices), some brokers may or may not have the assets you are looking for.
  • A fair amount of them accept numerous non-crypto methods of deposit and withdrawal, although cryptocurrency funding seems to be the direction many well-known and newer brokers are headed. Decide for yourself if that's a burden worth dealing with.
  • Almost all of them are offshore. Again, up to you if you want to trade with them.
  • ForexPeaceArmy is your best bet for finding untampered 3rd-party reviews. Use other forums and review sites like TrustPilot with caution.
So as of October 31 2022, here are the brokerages who will accept traders from the United States of America AND from Canada:
  • Hugo's Way
  • Number One Capital Markets
  • Hanko Trade
  • Turnkey Forex (according to one source from Babypips, this broker merged with Coinexx sometime in October 2022. This is evident because while Turnkey Forex's website is still operational, their registration link redirects you to the Coinexx website.)
  • LDQFX
  • LMFX (sometime in the first half of June 2023, they mysteriously decided to stop taking in US traders without any advance warning. They'll still take Canadians but I don't know if they're worthy of being migrated to the third list yet)
  • OspreyFX
  • Prosperity4X
  • SageFX (as of late October 2022, it appears they are no longer accepting NEW traders from the USA for a temporary period of time due to a market research program. A few Babypips members thought it was a permanent change but I just confirmed my findings through a chat with customer support this morning. But notably, existing US traders who already have an account with them are unaffected by this temporary change)
  • CedarFX
  • ATC Brokers
  • AAFX
  • LongHornFX
  • Oanda (I've heard very mixed things about them, so double down on investigating them)
  • EagleFX
  • KOT4X
  • Tradiso
  • CryptoRocket
  • Finpro Trading (NOTE: According to intel from Babypips and Forex Peace Army, this broker shut down completely in May 2022 and has not come back online)
  • AzaForex (no Empty4 or Empty5 available, you have to trade through their web platform)
  • Uniglobe Markets
  • Coinexx
  • EnviFX
  • FXSWay
  • BluwaveFX
  • FairForexFX
  • Nash Markets
  • XtreamForex
  • FX Wonders
  • Hey Forex
  • Inland FX (they only have a website and no other mention anywhere else on the Internet, plus they are Empty5 only, and no indication of available instruments or spreads)
  • TP Global FX
  • Crypto Altum (Empty5 only, has forex but their main specialty is cryptocurrency trading)
  • Esta Trade
  • Hive Markets
  • Interactive Brokers (no Empty4/5 platform, low leverage)
  • Forex.com (also heard very mixed things, very limited to a Standard account if using Empty4)
  • FX Live Capital
  • CapitalCore (Empty4/MT5 to arrive by end of January 2022, with the addition of more indices and US stocks available to trade. But their binary options are strictly limited to their own web platform)
  • FXGlory
  • Lirunex
  • LegacyFX (Empty5 only)
  • BitYard (no Empty4/5)
  • UNFXB (Empty5 only)
  • VitalMarkets
  • CarbonCapitalFX (Empty5 only)
  • MEEFX
  • JMI Brokers
  • SolidECN (Empty5 only)
  • EncoreCapitals (Empty5 only)
  • Investizo
  • Ventura Prime FX
  • Climax Prime (Empty5 only)
  • ExcoTrader
  • BelleoFX (Empty5 only)
  • MecuryFX (Empty5 only)
  • Face Capital Limited (Empty5 only)
  • FX Primary
  • BenchMarkFX
  • ZeyFex (Empty5 only, seems like more of a copy trade service)
  • Inveslo
  • Istithmar.co.uk (Empty5 only)
  • EnclaveFX (Empty5 only)
  • MarketProTrade.com (no Empty4/5, uses their own proprietary platform)
  • Proton Capital Markets
  • Kumo Markets
  • LidyaFX (Empty5 only)
  • Sapphire Markets (Empty5 only)
  • Investorsnet.org
  • AlphaForexMarkets.com (Empty5 only)
  • MogaFX
  • USGFX.Global
  • iBell Markets (Empty5 only)
  • GIFX Prime (Empty5 only)
  • SwissFS
  • WaysTrade (Empty5 only)
  • MaxFXProfits.com (Support sucks and tried to sell me on an investment service. Unless this gets fixed big time, stay away from these guys!)
  • CapitalStreetFX (no Empty4/5)
  • FXGrow (Empty5 only)
  • JMTrade
  • TheBrokersCapital (Empty5 only)
  • LCM-FX
  • VFM Brokers
  • AronGroups.co (Empty5 only)
  • AbsoluteMarkets.com
  • FXSign.com
  • XFlowMarkets.com
  • EMDBroker.com
  • HeroFX.co
  • AssetsFX.com
  • NovatechFX.com (Empty5 only, does not allow traders from the USA states of Montana, Hawaii, Texas, Alaska, and South Carolina)
  • AxenTrade (Empty5 only)
  • CrystalBallMarkets.com (Mobius Trader 7 only, no Empty4 or Empty5)
Brokers I may potentially add to the above list if certain issues are resolved:
  • Blaze Markets
    • (Customer support says "We do accept traders from Canada. From the USA we don't actively accept... this means there are ways for a US client to trade but it's case by case". What they meant was "we don't accept US clients BUT compliance may let it slide if they don't verify and they use Crypto to deposit only. Or you can open an account for them as we can accept Canada")
  • Bold Prime
    • (Tread with caution here. My first interaction with live chat said they accepted Canadian and American traders, plus their registration form features both countries. My second interaction with live chat said they do not accept Canadian and American traders. Either way my prior issues with submitting a driver's license as proof of national ID have been resolved. I've also been contacted by a few US residents who claimed they were able to successfully deposit real money, trade live, and withdraw real money without issues. Whatever outcome you get with these guys, good or bad, is 100% on you)
  • Hanju Market
    • (cannot create a demo account in client back-end as the option does not exist. Had to create it in Empty4 itself and even then I don't know if it reflects their actual demo account in terms of leverage, instruments available, and spread. Nobody responds on their online chat, and the email on the bottom of the website does not work. Had to use one of their emails I found via signing up and getting a notification in my inbox. Awaiting a response to fix these very basic problems)
  • Rann Forex
    • (Customer support had this vague answer: "No, we can't accept you if you are from US or Canada. Although we don't verify your residential address so in theory we can't know for sure. We are not verifying your address or any other data, so if you say you are US citizen, we take it so. The only purpose of collecting data is verifying that you are the same person who initially opened an account in case password is lost”. Weirdly enough you had the option to list Canada or USA when setting up your profile)
  • GoStreams.io
    • (Still awaiting email to confirm if they accept traders from either country, but you had the option to list Canada or USA when setting up your profile at the registration form. Tried messaging on WhatsApp as they have been unresponsive with two emails I've sent and their live chat is never online)
  • TDAmeritrade
    • (via their thinkorswim platform only. tomele had good things to say about the TastyTrade brokerage for futures, options, and crypto started by the same person who created thinkorswim. However, TDAmeritrade is ONLY for Americans and not for Canadians)
Brokers accepting Canadian traders but not US traders (not a priority for me to update right now, but I've heard generally good things about them):
  • FXChoice*
  • BlackBullMarkets (as of over a year ago from June 2023, they no longer accept new Canadian clients)
  • Blueberry Markets
  • Ingot Brokers*
  • TioMarkets
  • FXView
  • TradersWay*
  • ValuTrades (SeyChelles)
  • AnzoCapital
  • XBTFX.io (except for residents of Quebec)
  • AMarkets
  • TMGM
*If you are a US resident who already had an account with this broker BEFORE they stopped accepting U.S clients, you are "grandfathered in" and can still trade with this broker. If you are a US resident who wishes to become a NEW client with this broker, forget it.

Please let me know if this helps! As much as I would love to sign up with Global Prime, being a Canadian means I am unable to trade with them. Thus I have to find alternatives that may not be approved by Steve or the SHF veterans.

EDIT, NOVEMBER 23 2021:
  • Added the brokers FXSway, BluwaveFX, FairForexFX to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • Added the brokers Blueberry Markets and Ingot Brokers to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders.
EDIT, NOVEMBER 26 2021:
  • Added the broker Nash Markets to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • Added the brokers TioMarkets and FXView to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders.
EDIT, NOVEMBER 29 2021:
  • Added the brokers XtreamForex, FX Wonders, Hey Forex, InlandFX, TP Global FX, Crypto Altum, Esta Trade, and Hive Markets to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • Added an additional list of brokers with unresolved issues to keep track of current conversations with customer support.
  • Added the broker TradersWay to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders, along with a disclaimer for select brokers in this list
  • Linked to ForexPeaceArmy as a place to search up untampered reviews.
EDIT, DECEMBER 2 2021:
  • Added the brokers Interactive Brokers and Forex.com to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • Added the broker ValuTrades (SeyChelles) to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders, along with a disclaimer for select brokers in this list.
EDIT, DECEMBER 6 2021:
  • Added the broker CapitalCore to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders, along with FX Live Capital as customer support helped me fix the issue I had with logging into my demo account.
  • Bold Prime removed from the second list as customer support confirmed they do not accept traders from Canada or America. Even though both countries show up in the registration page, you will ultimately get rejected once you submit documents showing proof of identity and address.
  • Added the broker AnzoCapital to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders.
EDIT, DECEMBER 7 2021:
  • Added the broker FXGlory to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • FX Globe removed from the second list as customer support confirmed they do not accept traders from America but will take Canadian traders. the lack of "United States" in the registration form should have been my first clue. I confirmed this via email conversation even though live chat claimed traders from the USA are accepted.
  • Added more details on additional struggles I've faced doing simple things with Hanju Market. Even if I get these issues resolved, I can add them to the first list but not without mentioning they have been the most difficult people to deal with.
  • Re-added Bold Prime to the second list with an important caveat. I got my issues resolved and my driver's license was finally accepted as proof of national ID. Also added details about other USA traders successfully depositing real money, trading live, and withdrawing real money without issues.
EDIT, DECEMBER 8 2021:
  • Added the broker Lirunex to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders.
  • Juno Markets removed from the second list as customer support told me the following: "Please be informed that we accept client from Canada but we do not accept client from USA (even though USA shows up in their registration form). For USA client we only allow them to be our Introducing Broker but not to trade with us"
EDIT, DECEMBER 19 2021:
  • Added the brokers LegacyFX, Bityard, UNFXB, VitalMarkets, CarbonCapitalFX, MEEFX, JMI Brokers, SolidECN, EncoreCapitals, Investizo, Ventura Prime FX, Climax Prime, ExcoTrader, BelleoFX, MecuryFX, Face Capital Liimted, FX Primary, BenchMarkFX, ZeyFex, Inveslo, Istithmar, EnclaveFX, MarketProTrade, Proton Capital Markets, Kumo Markets, LidyaFX, Sapphire Markets, Investorsnet, AlphaForexMarkets to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
  • Added the broker XBTFX.io to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders
EDIT, DECEMBER 21 2021:
  • Added the brokers MogaFX, USGFX.Global, iBell markets, SwissFS, GIFX Prime, WaysTrade to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
EDIT, JANUARY 3 2022:
  • Added the brokers MaxFXProfits.com, CapitalStreetFX, FXGrow, JMTrade, TheBrokersCapital, LCM-FX to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
  • Added the brokers AMarkets and TMGM to the list of brokers accepting Canadian traders but NOT American traders
EDIT, JANUARY 4 2022:
  • Added the broker TDAmeritrade to the second list, noting that Americans are accepted but not Canadians
EDIT, APRIL 14 2022:
  • Added the brokers VFM Brokers, AronGroups.co, and AbsoluteMarkets.com to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
EDIT, JULY 7 2022:
  • Added the brokers FXSign, XFlowMarkets, EMDBroker, HeroFX.co, and AssetsFX to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
EDIT, AUGUST 30 2022:
  • Added the brokers NovatechFX, AxenTrade, and CrystalBallMarkets to the list of brokers accepting Canadian and American traders
EDIT, OCTOBER 31 2022:
  • Made mention of Finpro Trading's inactivity, Turnkey Forex being acquired by Coinexx, and SageFX temporarily barring NEW USA traders from signing up with them
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Thanks for your research TransparentT. :clap: :clap: :clap: I am including a reference to your post in my wrup later today.

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Updated both lists in post #1 with some new brokers. As always make sure these are your secondary choices to Global Prime.

The only reason you should consider them is if you are unable to trade with Global Prime due to country restrictions:

“Global Prime is not able to accept clients from North Korea, Iran, USA, Puerto Rico, Ivory Coast and Ontario (Canada)”
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Both lists in post #1 have been updated with new brokers!

Although there are many more brokers likely worth investigating for Canadians only, I'm starting to reach the limit of all the brokers accepting both Canadian and American traders. This assumes all of them will either stay in business for the next 3-5 years or not do a switcheroo on Canadians/Americans due to "changing regulations".

At some point it would be awesome if myself and other people can provide well-written reviews that either promote or condemn these brokers.

We have to make the best of what we've got as underserved Forex traders. That is, unless we pack our bags and move to a different country for the sole purpose of getting a better broker. :hi:
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forextraderaz » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:02 am wrote:Hello,

Other brokers that you can add to list that allow U.S resides are: Hive Markets, ESTA Trade, Crypto Atum, FX Live Capital, TP Global FX, Bold Prime, Xtreamforex, Hanju Market,InlandFX,Hey Forex,FX Wonder,RannForex and Blaze Markets. There are also other brokers that work well with a simple VPN that I have used for several years. They require no KYC....these brokers are Evolve Markets, PrimeBit,XBTFX. We also have available to us outstanding prop firm options that open our doors even further....such as FTMO(LMAX used,Digital Pit(eightcap broker),My Forex Funds(Traders Global Group),E8(Inhouse custom,True Forex Funds(IC Markets broker used)Ment Funding(eightcap broker),The Prop Trading(The Brokers Capital), Traders Central (TC Bridge),Blue Edge Finacial(TC Bridge),BuoyTrade(Global Prime) among many other very promising prop firms.
Forextraderaz, thank you very much for compiling such a big list of brokers. I will verify the acceptance of US residents with the first list on Monday and add them to post #1 where appropriate.

I do have a few questions about the second and third list of brokers you provided me.

Regarding the ones you use with a VPN and do not require KYC, am I correctly understanding when you say you use a VPN to avoid registering as a US resident? The reason I ask is because Evolve Markets has explicitly told me they do not accept US residents/citizens on your platform.

As for the prop firms you listed and their respective brokers, are you suggesting you can trade through these prop firms as an American despite the brokers themselves not accepting American traders? Please help me better understand.
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Yes there are many brokers that if you ask them on live chat if they accept U.S residents they are instructed to say no. However in reality once you sign up you will be approved and able to trade with no problems. The hard part is finding these brokers that will give you this abilility to do this. Not at all surprised that Evolve Markets told you that they do not accapt U.S. I no longer ever ask live chat on any broker if they accept U.S....most of the time I will get an answer I don't want to hear.:) Rather I look at the bottom of the brokers site and see if U.S is mentioned as being restricted....if it is not specifically mentioned we may have a chance in and worth trying from my experience. Anyway back to Evolve Markets.... once you turn on your VPN for any other country of choice you will be under Tier 1....they have a Tier 2 KYC that I have never done since I am sure It would be declined. It allows for higher deposits and withdraws. I have been happily trading with them for many years and they are one of my favorite brokers. I also have a friend trading with them in the U.S as well.
So even though customer support will tell you that they don't accept US clients at some brokers, you can still sign up and trade with no problems? I find this hard to believe given that those same brokers do not have "United States" as a selectable country when you use their registration form to sign up for a live account with them. In the case of Evolve Markets I know that they formally accept Canadians but not Americans.

I have no idea if doing so would be illegal, especially if you are using a VPN to bypass their rules. I also don't know how this would come back to bite you when it's time to do taxes for the year and submit your trading numbers.

Just by looking at Evolve Markets' website, it is clearly more advantageous to use Empty5 instead of Empty4 due to a wider array of available non-forex trading instruments and greater flexibility with choosing your account currency. Then again this is a forex-only forum so I'm sure it won't be an issue for most people. You also need to create an Empty5 account and get verified before you are allowed to open and use an Empty4 account.
Yes currently all prop firms out there allow U.S residents including the prop firms that use brokers that normally would not accept us for private account. Some prop firms payout up to 90% of your profit made. To me it is well worth giving them a cut for the ability to have endless options now ....not to mention not needing to risk so much of my own capital. For example I can trade say a 100k account which only cost me between $400-600 depending on the prop firm. I also purchased recently a 250k account to trade with as well with oustanding trading conditions.
I have no experience with prop trading firms, so I can't comment on whether they are recommended or not by veteran traders. While the prop firm using Global Prime sounds like a good bet, I'm eager to see if anybody on this forum can chime in on their thoughts regarding prop firms in general.
Also wanted to mention I have used Crypto Rocket for many years however technically they no longer accepts U.S residents like they used to. They will allow trading with them just fine as long as VPN is used during sign up for new clients. I also still trade with Tradersway and FX Choice since I had old accounts with them previouly close to 10 years old now before they stopped accepting U.S clients. They will allow this ability to trade with them as long as accounts were created prior to the banning. I tend to open up accounts with brokers I don't even intend to trade with to lock myself into the system incase in the future I have fewer options.
This seems odd given that CryptoRocket's customer support personally confirmed they will accept US residents without issue. Therefore you shouldn't need to use a VPN to trade with them.

I can take another look at TradersWay as I know they will still accept Canadian residents/citizens. The list on post #1 will be updated tomorrow after evaluating your brokers who allow US residents without any workarounds needed.
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Both lists in post #1 have been updated with brand new brokers, along with a third in-between list to categorize brokers whose status regarding the acceptance of Canadian and/or American traders is not 100% certain.

forextraderaz has brought up a lot of areas worth further investigation. I cannot personally endorse them and I'm sure the veterans at this forum have their own opinions, but here's a short summary of some of the workarounds he(she?) has suggested:
  • Using prop firms to indirectly trade with brokers that normally restrict access to Canadian and American traders. The one firm I have particular interest in is BuoyTrade as their primary broker is Global Prime. I sent out a private message to Jemook for his opinion regarding BuoyTrade and prop firms in general.
  • Opening up accounts with all of the brokers who currently accept American traders in the event where new US clients will no longer be accepted in the near future. This is a smart idea I can get behind. It's like a form of insurance to protect yourself from losing access to potentially good brokers
  • Registering an offshore LLC for $2000-3000 and then trading through said LLC with the brokers that don't allow Canadians/Americans to trade with them. While I know nothing about offshore matters or even the costs and paperwork needed to maintain an LLC offshore, this does sound like a plausible idea. Perhaps for someone who's extremely desperate to trade with a select broker and will jump through hoops to acquire the perfect trading conditions.
Any feedback from the more experienced traders on this forum would be highly welcomed. This sounds like an awful lot of research and thinking. No doubt about it. Yet it's the price we have to pay for living in a first-world country where regulators will do everything to ensure grown-up adults can't have fun with trading forex. :evil:
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Interesting post, good work.

As for the last (LLC) idea I am not sure whether too many brokers will allow a company with limited capital to open an account. After all, they might want to have someone being financially responsible if things go wrong.
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I did some cleaning. Discussion of potentially illegal conduct is not acceptable at SHF.
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tomele » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:21 pm wrote:
I did some cleaning. Discussion of potentially illegal conduct is not acceptable at SHF.
You got in ahead of me. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: I have just read the posts you deleted and was about to step in. Thanks for your attention.

forextraderaz is now on permanent moderation. This means that his/her posts will only be shown here after they have been read and passed by a moderator. Don't hold your breath for this to happen,folks.

TT, please carry on your great work on behalf of our North American friends and ignore the dimwits.

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Read the effing manual, ok?

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